. >> and joining us now is judy miller, jessica -- tarlf . and katherine. and judy, we start with you, this business about russia, this is not first time, this -- i mean there is all kinds of you know there are things going on. >> this is not first time, this is not first player, we're uncertain at the moment whether or not this is russia, or whether or not it is russian government, or whether or not is is russian hackers. problem is us. we have known about these vulnerabilities for a long time, we have repeated assaults and repeated pep -- penetrations, opm, millions of file, two attacks that have been publicized now about russia. this is our problem to solve, congress has legislation it will not act on and ash carter defense secretary is frustrated because he cannot marshall cooperations from the pr private sector. tom: i would love to pick on government, butonestly it is -- honest 3 it is private corporation as well, does not seem like we're up to defending ourselveses in tech area. >> well, th government's responsibility to figure that out, i hope people

judy miller what do you think? who will prevail in this runoff amongst 16, 17 folks? >> a lot depends on the debate. >> but i'm asking you now, before the debate. >> i'm always interested in the last person i've been looking at. today i saw rick perry. he was really impressive. i had never veen him in person. he's a texan, unique, has a great record as a governor. >> he has run a great, great state for the past several years -- several, two terms. i agree with you, a very sharp fella and good guy. by the way, i'm not saying that because we're both texans either. i'm not. >> and i was nasty about the glasses. he's smart enough, he doesn't need the glasses, but he looks very good in them. >> judy, thank you very much. john, thanks for being here. great to see you. >>> in seattle, a cyclist captured the moment that a texting driver smashed into him. the man riding in the bike lane when an suv turning left cut him off and knocked him to the ground. the driver sped off before the cyclist could catch up to him. but, fortunately, the cyclist suffered only minor injuries. the

judy miller, and kathy woods and lauren with me, help us understand. >> this is a huge data breach but done intentionally by the impact team they consider the users too be stupid is what they said. and so they release log in information and payment information boo the people -- about the people. charles: but i have been reading as things leak out some of the sexual preferences, and you know really nitty-gritty stuff that is going to be -- i mean 15,000. govs and vatican city. >> you have to ask yourself, why were people not using a secret e-mail address. charles: someone said that is was actually, you weigh it about someone else finding it having access to your regular one verse your work, work to a lot of people seems safer but that brings upping well legal ramifications, how much responsibility does ashley madyson hold. >> that is an interesting legal question, we know that the impact team, the hackers have criminal liabilitity. if the fbi chooses to investigate. and to prosecute. but ash lee mod san -- ashley madyson may or may not have legal liability depending on what they promise

rich lowery from "national review" and judy miller, fox news contributors.oming out with earnings and don't hit targets. guess what, we raised wages for everyone. that ended up costing us a lot of profits. as a result we're not where we thought we would be. steve moore, is this surprise? >> not really. the real question is, will this require walmart now to raise prices? if that happens, the big benefit to low income americans of everyday low prices will -- walmart has done more to loyer poverty than any company in hit of the civilization and would be too bad if they have to raise prices. >> folks on other side this is perfect outcome. this is what think wanted. they wanted companies to take from the profits to give to their workers. the wealthy people that own the stock didn't need the money. and this made sense, rich. >> well, higher wages are a good thing but you want companies to be doing it in economical manner, way that makes sense and not doing it under coercion especially by minimum wage laws which will knock people off -- melissa: they did this willi

of i'm back with our panel, judy miller, mary kissle and allen combs.think about the trump turnout in mobile? >> it is what we have come to expect. but i think trump's problem is he himself said, he wants the election to be tomorrow. because the longer people listen to him, the more they're going to hear a demagog. and the more they're going to hear people who -- he's going to say what people feel is wrong without the solution. >> really funny when he said that, actually. >> i think the best interpretation of donald trump is that americans don't want to be japan, and they don't want to be europe. they want somebody to come in and fix the country. so that's good. the problem with trump is, as judy says, he's a populist. and as we see more of his policies, i think a lot of this enthusiasm is going to wane. >> if he turns around his tide, it says made in mexico. or made in china. i think that says it all. he's a business guy, period. >> so when you compare donald trump to john kasich, john kasich joining us at the top of the program, with real solutions to

melissa: here now, judy miller from the manhattan institute. she is fox news contributor. freeman from the "wall street journal." so i heard that, that was on the sunday program. that was compelling. i wanted to fact to see if she was right. we crunched data. if you look income inequality by state, you look who is in charge of those states,fy states, highest inequality are controlled by democrats except for one, louisiana. states with lowest income inequality and controlled by be republicans or independents. only one is democratic is new hampshire. i don't even know, technically democrat is in charge but they don't have income tax. so it is, as far as their policies, it is pretty right-leaning. if you look at unenemployment, followed a similar pattern, highest unemployment in states largely democratic controlled but lowest unemployment was in states, four out of five republican controlled. james freeman, what do you think? >> question whether you welcome and encourage economic growth. you see in the blue states, california, new york, and in our country as a whole unfortuna

. >> i want to say one thing that supports what judy miller is saying, like he couldn't stop himself,uldn't help himself. then at 2:30 he sends out a tweet against megyn kelly. >> right. which i'm sure she loved. jon: seem as little thin-skinned. i doubt she was up at 3:00 in the morning to read that. i want to read a couple of headlines. one in print from "the new york times." here's what they wrote. shedding any pretense of civility and party unity, donald j. trump overwhelmed first republican presidential debate and ripping into moderators and other republicans alike and into others who are seeking to stop his breath-taking surge. trump seems to get a pretty good headline there. ron fournier who writes for the "national journal" wrote this. this is the headline, i know ron maybe didn't write the headline but it headlined his article. read, trump voters is this really what you want, celebrity billionaire treating your party like a trophy wife as long as it suits him? widely disparate coverage of this one guy at this same event. ellen? >> well you know, as i looked around the room la

let's bring in judith miller and lynn sweet. i imagine, judyllary clinton would blame the media for stirring up the pot on these issues. is it all falsified? a narrative that doesn't deserve coverage or is she in real heat? >> she is obviously taking real heat. i think this week she kind of welcomed the attention to the c claim that republicans trying to be president are like terrorist, she didn't use that word, but extreme and like the terrorist groups for wanting to kill planned parenthood. this has ever republican up in hands. but at long last the media are talking about something other than the e-mail scandal and the extent she botched the handling of it. her statement was too late, too little, she is taking lots of heat. it is not letting it up. the way she handled it is more important than what the content of the e-mail turned out to be. >> there is a long time democrat bing committee representative from california who is quoted in the new york times as saying what hillary clinton ought to do is go out and hold a news conference and talk

miller, adjunct fellow at the manchester center for research. and alphonse d'amato back with us. thanks for joining us. former senator. judyvations from the two debates. what's your take away. ed rollins? >> i don't think anybody lost ground. i was hoping by the time we got to this point we wouldn't be talking about donald trump but we still are. since june 16th he's been the dominant factor. i think he did not help himself any. i think to a certain extent he has gone from -- he's not on a reality show or he is on a reality show. it's not a television reality show. running for president is a tough game. you better have some substance. he's gone from the protest candidate, the beetle candidate who said i'm not going to take it anymore to an archie bunker character in a suit. he's insulting people, making derogatory comments. he's continuing in the fight. he just does not look presidential to me. >> judy? >> of course, i was looking at the happy hour debate along with 6 million other americans. i think clearly fox news is kind of one of the big winners out of this. >> oh, yeah. >> not only the superb questions but how many p