michaelt's go to waiting in gerard, illinois, on the line for independents. we do not see any regulation of the stock market on wall street. i am a small business owner. we see money loaned. i go to a local bank. with a 700 credit score i cannot get a loan to buy a bobcat. you talk about the 2008 collapse, not one person held accountable. in my small town, you bounce a check for $18 and the police come to your home to take you to jail. yet, big banks can bounce checks for $750 million and nothing happens. they are never held accountable, never going to jail. our banks do nothing for us but charge us. host: michael konszal, start on this issue, no one was held accountable. guest: there was very little criminal investigation of wall street. there's a bunch of transfer. one is the interlocking of the leaf and finance and washington. second, concerns about what happened after arthur anderson. it put a chill in a lot of the investigations about the proper way to do it and instead, folks rely more on large fines. essentially, do not admit. people say they did not d