ms. benjamin.i would hope that c-span can do a series or bring the survivors in and do interviews with them and perhaps even bring johnson's biographer. i go through and bring out the entire truth surrounding the uss liberty and for ms. benjamin with the uss liberty and rachel corrie and all of the problems that israel has caused the government of israel, not the people of israel, ms. benjamin, do you think you will ever be possible to hold the government of israel to account without being labeled an anti-semite? again, honored and humbled at the opportunity. thank you very much. >> guest: thank you so much for calling in. women rising up i am totally there with you. that is what we've been trying to do. i want to give you an example of something i was involved recently, which is a woman on a korean american women who had a dream about women rising up to do some thing about the unresolved con like in the korean peninsula and woke up and said i'm going to organize a group of women and we will walk a

ms. benjamÍn.efore the last survivor, i would hope that c-span could do a series or aubry them -- bring the survivors in and do interviews with them and perhaps maybe bring johnson robert carl and go through and bring out the entire troop surrounding the liberty and for ms. benjamÍn, and all of the problems that israel has caused the government of israel. not the people of israel, do you think it will ever be possible to hold the government of israel to account without being labeled thank you very much. >> thank you so much john for calling up. women rising up i'm totally there with you. that's what we've been trying to do. i prefer to do it outside the government. i wanted to give you an example of something that i was involved recently which is a women on a koreanan woman who had a dream of women rising up. i'm going to organize a group of women and we're going to walk across the zone and that's exactly what we did. wewe organized 30 women including nobel peace prize winners we got the permission

ms. fiorina: i would make a phone call to benjamin netanyahu to make sure we stand with the state of israelnd the second would be to the supreme leader of iran. you would get the message -- until you open every nuclear and military facility to full open anytime, anywhere inspections, we will make it as difficult as possible for you to move money around the global financial system. as important as those phone calls are, they are important because they say america is back in the leadership business. when america does not lead the world is a dangerous and tragic place. john: i predict she will be on the main stage at the next debate in september in california. she will not be at the kiddie table. what do the people that were at the table, what do they take away from her performance to help them elevate? mark: on one level i was wrong because i was saying the earlier debate had great opportunities. she clearly proved you could have a breakout performance. on the other ones, they did not come playing their a game. she has done a lot of great things in terms of her coverage and connection with th

ms. fiorina: the question is about iran, isis, the issues that are critically important. whether it is sitting with vladimir putin or benjamin netanyahu privately, i know this. when the united states of america does not stand with our enemies,d confront our it is a dangerous place. we must care for those -- [applause] washington, d.c., talks about fixing a lot of things. toneed someone who knows how translate a good speech into results. i do. calls.make two phone the first one will be to my friend netanyahu. we stand with israel. the second will be to the supreme leader of iran. he will get the message. untile message is this -- facilityevery military any time for inspections, the united states will make it as difficult as possible for you to in the economic system. the rest of the world has moved on. we have to cut off the money flow. they are a signal loud and clear that theadversary united states of america is back in the leadership business. [applause] i would not call vladimir putin. begin rebuilding the defense program. conduct aggressive military exercises and he would get the message. [applause] i would hold a camp d

ms. fiorina: the question is about iran, isis, the issues that are critically important. i know more foreign leaders than anyone else running. with vladimir putin or benjamin netanyahu privately, i know this. when the united states of america does not stand with our allies and confront our adversaries, it is a dangerous place. we must have the strongest military on the face of the planet and everyone has to know. [applause] we must care for those who have served us. it is a stain on our nation that the v.a. has been broken for 20 years. washington, d.c., talks about fixing a lot of things. but somehow they have never fixed that. we need someone who knows how to translate a good speech into results. i do. i will make two phone calls. the first one will be to my friend netanyahu. we stand with israel. [applause] the second will be to the supreme leader of iran. realistically, he might not get my phone call -- take my phone call. he will get the message. and the message is this -- until you open every military facility any time for inspections, the united states will make it as difficult as possible for you to maneuver in the economic system. the rest of the

ms. swain: but she came from a political family. mr. gould: yes. her -- her father was a friend of benjamin harrison and had been involved in ohio politics on her mother's side. there had been a congressman in their background. and she was quite the intellectual. i mean, she was reading darwin and goethe and other things in school and she had the ability to play the piano, which she studied quite seriously. i wish there were recordings, but there does not seem to be. and so she had a salon in cincinnati, which was a very culturally rich city in those days as it is -- i mean, i'm not planning to-- now, but it was sort of -- they had seven hills, so they thought of themselves as sort of the rome of the middle west. ms. swain: well, if she was from a political family and how this ambition, no matter how much a product of being just 16 and enthralled with it of getting to the white house, how did she choose will taft as her mate? mr. gould: well, they -- they knew of each other, it was a small community. it was really after he had gone to yale and come back to be in the cincinnati law school th