it was the worst time in his life, he had a young family, he would work at pixar and apple. aid that he was so exhausted. he could not speak to his wife, he could just watch a half hour of tv and investigate. he got close to killing me, he said. do you think that he should be allowed to do both jobs? him?at law will stop you could look one way and say that there are so many ceos and only two of them have done it. but with jack dorsey, he could say he would like to play that game. it is an option for him. he will be drawn into wanting to do it. the board will want to have a clear ceo. there could be a dynamic going on. maybe they get an outside candidate. emily: the other factor is that chris is a big outside investor and he says this is what should happen, which we saw from suntrust, we see him repeating what was wanted. >> he has been vocal about his opinions. he thinks jack can run both. he is showing that he can now. according to chris. there is in or around twitter with jack in charge. >> the aura. emily: founder ceos, they have a moral authority that -- >> yes. >> and it

the only example that people even come close to calling to mind is steve jobs, pixar and apple.'s mentioned that several times. the pixar arguably was much further along as a company than square is. square is at a pivotal stage in its development. especially as it's in a very competitive field. it's just about to go public. i think there is a natural tension between running these two companies and i'm wondering what your thoughts are on that? >> well they could get a ceo to run it and jack could be chairman. it hasn't gone public yet. filing is one thing, going public is another. maybe they'll sell. there's all kinds of things that could happen in that timeframe. i think that he refers to both of his companies as his babies. i guess he doesn't want to pick one baby over the next. we'll see if the board goes along with that one thing is for sure, adam won't take the job if jack dorsey wants it. you need the buy-in from jack and the product side, very heavily for him. >> stocks not moving much on the sun trust report. but bob peck will be on the "halftime report" late they are aft

the only example that we can think of is that steve jobs ran both apple and pixar when they were bothlic companies. there is not another similar comparison. in walter isaacson's biography of steve jobs they talk about , how rough this was. it was the worst time in his life, he had a young family, he would go to pixar at 7:00 a.m., the kids would be in bed, i literally couldn't speak i was so exhausted. all he could do was watch a half-hour of tv and got vegetate. it got close to killing me. do you think he should be allowed to do both jobs? >> allowed is a vague word. what law is going to stop him? two have done it, elon and steve jobs. jack dorsey says, i want to make that play. it is an interesting challenge. he will be drawn into wanting to do it. the board will want to have a clear ceo. and if they want and as a candidate there could be a , dynamic going on. maybe they get an outside candidate. emily: the other factor is that chris sacca, when the biggest investors outside saying that this is what should happen, which we saw from suntrust, we see him repeating what was wanted. sar

apple people were begging him to do it. i don't think jack is at that point yet. also jobs had already launched the imac and ibook. pixarut out "toy story 1" and "toy story 2" and "a bugs life." square is just going public. jack is on the board of disney at the same time. he has to make some choices. >> the momentum is gathering. the stock purchase which is a lobbying effort, a million bucks, not that much money. a note calling it the triumvirate. it seems like a fair amount of momentum and the stop off a very low number, a little bit of stability even if it's not what people want. >> when you see the tweet with the three people all from twitter again, when do you actually allow somebody from the outside to come in? how do you make that choice? we've seen more of the same, so how do you make that choice? >> who has been your outside pick? >> eric schmidt. >> that's who i want but i don't think it will happen. >> we'll talk more about it, i'm sure, later on. alibaba investing $4.5 million for a nearly 20% stake in china electronics retailer sony. they say they will deliver goods in 24 hours. they report earnings on wedne