the police just turned him loose. >> susan reed, the judge that signed ruben's death warrant was now orney of san antonio. under pressure to respond to lisa alston's charges of misconduct, reed ordered an allow ruben to be executed? >> david told me, we had a code of silence. we didn't talk. we knew that talking to the police would only get us in more trouble. >> me and ruben, we would never snitch each other out for anybody else involved. that was no matter who was involved. >> another friend of david and ruben's did name names. romero reyes, who had curly hair, was brought in twice by police as a suspect in the murder before telling detectives that cantu had been the shooter. >> romero told the police that ruben confessed to him that he was the shooter but consider who is saying that ruben confessed to them. do you think that romero is going to say, yeah, i did it? that's never going to happen. so he fixed it up pretty good for himself. he shoved everything over to ruben. it wasn't me. it was ruben. >> if romero did implicate ruben cantu for the murder, why was he never called to te

executing an innocent man in ruben cantu sent shock waves through the state and district attorney, susan reedsponded by going on the offensive. >> sue san reed, she went ali s first. she wanted to know her sources and lisa called me and said, they are going to take me before the grand jury. if i don't disclose my information, i think they are going to jail me. so i said, lisa, just feel free to give them my name. that's okay. we have nothing to hide. >> richard agreed to meet with reed's investigators and shared his materials from the case. >> what we discovered was that juan moreno was literally manipulated by the investigator, the investigator worked on his wife and he would send her flowers and he would phone call. he was taking them out to dinner. he was making payments to the family. it was an extremely manipulative investigation. >> reed's record says that if juan moreno changed his story because i paid him. it's absurd. this is a hard-working man. now, if juan moreno says, i'll spend a day with you, i need to reimburse him on whatever he loses. that's the standard thing to do. we have

joining me now joy reed, msnbc national correspondent. susan dell pers owe. and ric wilson down there in florida. thank you for being here today. why is iowa equally excited about two candidates who couldn't be more opposite stylistically. >> well what you have seen in iowa in the last poll is that they more or less care about the person with who is the washington outsider. we've seen in three consecutive polls almost 3 to 1. if you are an outsider they want you. and the monmouth poll, trump stays at 23. it is carson and fiorina o who take the big increases. really jeb and others losing ground and they are picking up steam because the message of being a washington outsider is really getting through. >> is the reason dr. ben carson is rising in the polls as susan says is because he satisfies a need for voters that donald trump simply can't? >> as we successed, donald trump satisfied the id of a lot of voters. and ben carson satisfies the superego. he is a much more mindful conservative. in fact his conservative bona fides are much better than trump's. and in f

and -- susan swain: so she won the senate, but in the house she ran into a formidable foe, which was the speaker reedwilliam seale: speaker tom reed from maine. he was a great adversary of benjamin harrison. they fought a lot over bills. and leland stanford of california was mrs. harrison's great ally. and he spent the night sleeping in the cloak room hoping the act of appropriation would go through, but speaker reed, looking -- he was a very razor-tongued kind of sharp guy, and he cooked up this story that harrison had dared to appoint a postmaster in maine without his approval and he crashed the whole thing. he wouldn't let it come up. susan swain: so lacking her ability to expand the white house, she turned to restoring what she already had. william seale: she redecorated thinking and hoping it was a minor thing to do, and she became interested in the historic house and began researching the attics and so forth and pulling out antiques and stuff and putting in the different rooms. and she had a decorator in boston made things spiffy. see, tiffany had been the last one to do the rooms. and they wer

reed looking for your thoughts as well. >> you can send us a tweet@c-spanwj. biden poses a threat to clinton. this is from susan page who writes if he enters, vp would reshape democratic fight. no word whether he enters. she writes he's likely to run. since 1940 only three of those elected as vice president did not run either for president or become president. democratic strategist peter fenn notes today's politics are cautionary. it will be a hard slog for biden on many fronts. the 2016 political landscape has been shaped by the assumption that clinton is the all but certain nominee even in the face of a rising challenge by vermont senator bernie sanders. biden would alter the democratic fight says joe trippi. bernie sanders was this weekend over the weekend at the iowa soapbox "the des moines register" soapbox at the iowa state fair and here's what he had to say about the issue of income inequality. >> we have to recognize $7.25 is a starvation wage. we have to raise the minimum wage to a living wage, $15,000. [ applause ] what we understand also is that when we live in a competitive global economy we need th