dan weiss? guest: you would possibly that god gave us tobacco and we ought not to smoke that, so the reality is that she said herself that the amount of snowfall that she is noticed in wyoming has declined dramatically since over the last 50 years. ink, dave's point is this -- an analogy -- we should not go on a diet because the first time we eat a low-fat anything, we are not going to lose all the weight we need to lose. we should not start walking every day because the first time we walk, we are not going to lose 10 pounds. the reality is, just like with you need toved when change lifestyle, eat healthier, get exercise, we need to change our energy lifestyle. we need to produce energy more healthily and we need to prepare for the impact of climate change that are already happening. like in alaska where there is 85% of the community will be affected by climate change. like in south florida where sea level rises and floods in neighborhoods that were not flooded before. we have to go on an energy

dan weiss? caller: i don't know anything about the club of rome, but i do know that the caller is partially correct which is that in places with lots of organic land are like the peapod northern candidate or northern alaska or siberia where they are frozen tundra's, as the earth thaw, those areas will and release carbon pollution, and that will heat up the planet and they will fall even more. it is a self reinforcing cycle and that is a real danger. it has not happened yet, but it is in the process of happening which is why we need to reduce u.s. and world light and missions. first, we have to do if you. we are traditionally the largest polluter in the atmosphere and we have to reduce our emissions and we need to work with other countries to get them to reduce their pollution as well which is also underway. go to an underlying issue which is the cost of clean air rules. kelly trust the epa to give us an accurate estimate of what these costs are because the supreme court disagrees? caller: look a