. >> father gilbert martinez is the pastor of st.sinful is homosexual acts. it's important to make that distinction. >> father gill oversees an outreach program to the lbgt program called out at st. paul, which has about 120 active members. what is your message to lbgt catholics? >> it's the message of the gospel. we don't do it any differently for anybody that walks in the church, that they are loved by god and invited to live their lives in faith by sharing that love. >> it seems to be working. his church is crowded on sundays and what's more, attracts a relatively young congregation. >> one of the conflicts for the younger generation is the church's response to homosexuality. this has been a big issue for young people. >> as a pastor, does the church offer to heal homosexuality? >> no, i think that can be very harmful. >> how come? >> we don't consider it sinful and i believe we have to continue to take people where they're at. they understand themselves to be homosexual and then they can decide whether they can be chaste. others