you can see some of her worker karen mills.com. the former administrator of the small business administration. we appreciate your time on washington journal. , your weekly your money segment, the potential cost to taxpayers of loans. ♪ >> the pope's visit to the u.s.. c-span has live coverage from washington dc the first stop on the popes to her, beginning 345 on c-span -- at 3:45 p.m. on will consider money for the as they officially welcome him to the white house. live coverage begins at 845 -- 8:45 a.m. eastern . c-span live coverage begins at becomes the as well first pontiff to address a joint meeting of congress. later, at 11:30 a.m. the project will have a multireligious service as the 9/11 memorial. live on c-span. >> washington journal continues. week in the segment of the washington journal we see how your money is at work in a different federal program. we're discussing federal student loans, and the cost of recent initiatives designed to help students with heavy loan burdens. our guest is a higher education reporter wit