what's changed is rubio's strategy.he was keeping his head down, now he's started to taunt him. rubio said trump had a tough week, spoke to an etmpty room i south carolina, was embarrassed by carly fiorina and is an insecure guy. he's goading donald trump into attacking him. it's a deliberate strategy and it's working in rubio's favor. >> trump will go through the list of people, name by name, he talks about rick perry and scott walker and he says look what happens when people come after me, they plummet in the polls. but it doesn't seem like it's play iing out with rubio. >> rubio knows the trump act is getting old. that it's like when chris christie first told someone to sit down and shut up, everybody cheered. after the 50th time, it became boarish. that's what is happening with trump. it's becoming too much and it's masking a lack of substance on his part. trump launched his tax reform today and marco rubio got him to step on his story by calling him a lightweight. so he's succeeding. second, he's going after -- the

rubio is just a kid. you hear that from people other than donald trurp. trump. that rubio projects -- not only is a young, but projects young. >> that is the same criticism of john kennedy. he was very young. obama was relatively young. we've had young presidents in our history. that doesn't tell you anything one way or the other. what you care about is the depth of experience and knowledge, irrespective of age. if you've been studying foreign policy, you've been thinking about it for a dozen years. >> do you think that this -- i mean, this latest, that trurp would use rubio as the top nonolder challenger? >> i happen to think it is probably correct. because i think rubio, on paper, has the best prerntsation to face. say a hillary clinton for the republican side. he is a very presentable candidate in that sense. namely, dr. carson who he called an okay doctor. i often wondered what exactly is the medical expertise that prepared trump. i'd like to hear that. >> that was his best line of the night. >> great

rubio knows foreign policy.policy and he doesn't have to stoop to saying things like you're a loser. >> rubio still looks young. he just looks younger than his years. >> now it's time to attack the big guy. the big ugly bear. >> sonny liston. >> last question. will the pope improve the mood of american politics? perry. >> mood of american politics cannot be improved, no. trump is leading in the polls. >> michelle, do you have any hopes? >> i have hopes that the pope's presence here is going to lift our aspirations and make all of our governing people actually want to govern. >> marginally. makes it a little bit harder for a right-wing -- >> here's my argument that it will. i think the arguments he made, which is compassion, care about other people, we've been a country at our best that roots for the underdog. it just does. i saw some things out on the parkway in philadelphia the other day. first of all, all these people who left the city came back to the city for this. hispanic people are catholic. white people

rubio will do that. i think carly is going to call on the phone, and on the other side, you've got bush, and trump who says i would take a hard look at it, andland said i'm not going to tear -- rand who said i'm not going to tear that up, and kasich who said i'm not going to tear that up. i would say it's realist versus folks who want to go back into the middle east. >> i tend to think, actually, and i'm obviously not a fan of the deal, but i actually suspect marco rubio if he was to become president would not tear up the deal. let's face it. if the deal is working, if iran is complying, if there's verification, the deal will hold. the alternative very quickly, and anyone being honest admits they become complicated at best. i would say on fiorina, we i think there's a point, some of the substance, rebuild the 6th 6th feet. there needs to be a little bit more complex in calling netanyahu, and i think republicans can own foreign articulate. to putin. she's so tough, she doesn't have to talk to him. she'll

eleanor: i would say rubio is the most charismatic. tom: rubio for that line about spanish speaking and univision and being able to deal with people. clarence: i think rubio certainly has those qualities. crares matic is a word that -- charismatic sick a word that helps me to explain why ben cars season still there. he's a very likable guy but i can't see him as president. i call him the dr. huxtable factor. he's so likable. john: that's all very interesting but the answer is fiorina. she struck an artful balance between passion and deliberation. issue three-language lessons. trump: this is a country where we speak english, not spanish. >> my grandfather instilled in me the belief that i was blessed to live in the one society in all of human history where even i, the son of a bartender and maid could aspire to anything. but he taught me that this spanish because it was the language he was most comfortable in and he game a conservative even though he got his news in spanish. i believe that free enterprise and limited government is the b

we've talked to rubio supporters and folks undecided, you have some people putting rubio in the samereath as ben carson and donald trump. others who say i like rubio, but also chris christie, john kasich, some of the more establishment guys as well. >> you're in the state of florida, you didn't mention jeb bush's name. >> didn't mention jeb bush's name and neither did marco rubio on stage. although he did say, there shouldn't be a line, you don't have to wait in line to become president. i haven't talked to too many bush supporters here. >> anyway, hallie jackson with the campaign, thanks so much. now to the front-runner, donald trump is holding on to that lead. he ticked up in the poll technically. he was at 19 the last time. he's now at 21. but carson essentially tied for first place within the margin of error. trump tried to grab some new momentum by releasing some policy proposals, specifically a big tax plan. here is him this afternoon. >> many of the loopholes and many of the deductions which are old, been there for years, are antiquated in many cases, or are put there because

schultz used that collection to smear rubio, quote: rubio is holding this event on the eve of the holiest of the jewish calendar yom kippur. holding an event in a man who dedicated his life to extinguishing the jewish people is is the height of insensitivity and indifference. there is really no excuse for such a gross act of disrespect. mr. rubio, who by the way represents a sizeable jewish population in our home state of florida should cancel this tasteless fundraiser it is astounding that these items represent more lore for jews the world over would not stop anyone in their tracks when planning this event. what is truly astounding is the woman's ignorance. i have been to harlan crow's home and i have seen his collection of history. it's amazing. any museum would be proud to display what he has. but good and evil are represented in an educational way. there are documents and letters from crucial moments in american history as well as world history. they include items from villains such as hitler, ahlian, tojo and saddam hussein. if you follow wasserman schultz's positioning no could hold

marco rubio. it was a very warm reception that he got. and this is not necessarily his credit. i give him credit for coming here and talking to him. >> plain why if you're talking to a group of social conservatives, it's not all, you know, cruz, carson, huckabee. why would these voters listen to anybody other than those poor guys who stand up for what they believe in? >> well, i think you look at the social conservative voters. they're much more complex than people care for. they care about the economy. in fact, we began this morning with senator john mccain. he's clearly not a favorite from this group. but they respect his stand on national security. they respect his stand for what he's been doing for religious freedom and the military. so he received a very warm reception. >> how big is it? how big is this? how important is this in the gop election? >> well, the reason you saw most of them here today is because 50% of primary vote comes from social conservative voters. >> is it that much? 50%? >

carson, rubio, fiorina.longer they're above 50%, more than half of republicans saying they want one of them instead of bush or somebody like that, that's significant. below 50%, the establishment is winning and the f that number above 50%, that's a very, very angry elect rat. >> thanks so much. >> sure. >>> coming up, joyce mitchell, the woman who helped two convicts escape from prison has a day in court today. details on the sentence. >>> plus, ben carson says money is pouring in amid the backlash over his comments about a muslim in the white house. >>> new questions for hillary clinton as the democratic hopeful acknowledges the e-mail scandal isn't going away. chuck todd joins us with a premu of part 2 of his hillary clinton interview and a preview of his new show here on msnbc ahead. i tried depend last weekend. it really made the difference between a morning around the house and getting a little exercise. only depend underwear has new confidence core technology for fast absorption and the smooth, comfort

i don't want to know what marco rubio knows about syria. i know about isis trying to talk out isis and that wanting to go against assad. and saying i can't believe it, americans are killing my enemy, this is the greatest thing happening to me. we are run by incompetent people. i have a good chance of winning. i don't want the other side to know exactly what i'm going to do so that they can start thinking tab planning it. i want to be unpredictable. >> i can understand being unpredictable with the enemy and not telegraph that. >> and i give answers generally because you have to do that unfortunately to get elected. >> yes, to the voters. >> don't forget, alisyn, i was the one that said don't go into iraq. that is was 2003. >> what do you know about marco rubio? >> look, marco rubio sits behind a desk and in committee. i create jobs all day long. i know more about this all of us put together. believe me, we'll have a winning strategy. if marco rubio is so good, how come we're doing so badly? >> will you clue in the voters as to what you will

rubio as an example. he's at no money, zero. now i think that's okay. it's fine. maybe it's good politically so say you owe money because you overborrowed on your credit cards. i get these lightweights like rubio. he gets up and he says well donald trump didn't talk about foreign policy. i don't want to tell too much. marco rubio, who has the worst voting record in the united states senate, and young guy, although, he sweats more than any young person i've ever seen in my life. i've never seen a person sweat, i've never seen a guy down water like he downs water. they bring it in in buckets for this guy. >> first of all, he takes shots at everybody that gets anywhere close to him or does, you know, in terms of a poll or any time he hits a rough spot. he had a really bad debate performance last week. he's not well informed on the issues. he never talks about issues and can't have more than a ten second sound bite on any key issue and so i think he's kind of been exposed a little bit over the last seven days

>> marco rubio by far. >> still. you're still bullish on rubio. >> i am. think the best argument the republicans will have against hillary clinton are most likely nominee is a future versus past and he embodies the future. he's the only republican candidate up there who's had an optimistic future looking -- an optimistic way of talking about the conservative message. >> and ana, you are a friend of both jeb bush and marco rubio. you have endorsed jeb bush. how do you think mr. bush did? how do you think mr. rubio did? >> i think they both did really, really well in their weight class. and i'll explain that. these are marco's skills. he is by far the most skilled orator in politics today, i think. and he's whit itty and quick. very good at this debate stuff. jeb had not debated in ten years. i think if you grade him with how he did in cleveland, he by far is the most improved. jeb did what he had to do. marco was consistent and just as good as he was -- >> jeb had to show he had a pulse. >> that helped. he showed he had blood. he had a pulse. he didn't have

what you saw in that exchange with rubio, certainly rubio has studied more, you saw from rubio a very maybe rehearsed political confrontation. what you saw from trump was more of a shoot from the hip, foreign. he has the ability to communicate that maybe a lot of other people on the stage haven't reached yet. >> but that answer from putin was hard to understand what he was saying. when you put that cloud in people's heads, i think they'll suffer. he said if not i'll have a plan b and we don't really know what that plan b was. trump reduces it to mono a mono foreign policy. >> what we've not solved the mystery is his support. stay in the end of the great mystery. >> that mystery will be unfolding as we continue to go along. >>> when we come back with another debate behind us, a look at where the campaign goes from here. did this week's performances change the republican race in a fundamental way? our panel's thoughts after the break. it time to let the... ...real you shine... ...through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats pla

marco rubio -- fiorina is in second place, then ben carson. marco rubio moved up a lot. you had an exchange with jeb bush about casino gambling in florida, you said it was totally false that you tried to get casino gambling -- >> i never spoke to him. i never called him and said, would you do it? in fact, the governor that was after him ultimately approved it. but i never spoke to jeb. i never called up jeb and said, jeb, would you do me a favor -- >> you're saying, you were accepting trying to get casino gambling there. >> we're looking at deals all over the world. i'm doing deals all over the world. yeah, we were looking at the florida, but ultimately, charlie crist, the next governor, approved casino gambling. i never called jeb. the question was, did i call jeb? it was very premature. it was very early. there were other steps they would have to take. i would have called jeb and i think he might have done it for me, because i did help him. but i never called him and therefore i think i was 100% accurate in my answer. >> donald trump, thank you for joining us. >> thank

schultz used that collection to smear rubio, quote: rubio is holding this event on the eve of the holiest of the jewish calendar yom kippur. holding an event in a man who dedicated his life to extinguishing the jewish people is is the height of insensitivity and indifference. there is really no excuse for such a gross act of disrespect. mr. rubio, who by the way represents a sizeable jewish population in our home state of florida should cancel this tasteless fundraiser it is astounding that these items represent more lore for jews the world over would not stop anyone in their tracks when planning this event. what is truly astounding is the woman's ignorance. i have been to harlan crow's home and i have seen his collection of history. it's amazing. any museum would be proud to display what he has. but good and evil are represented in an educational way. there are documents and letters from crucial moments in american history as well as world history. they include items from villains such as hitler, stahlian, tojo and saddam hussein. if you follow wasserman schultz's positioning no could ho

. >> marco rubio? . >> i think he came in second. particularly what you would do with russia and syria. the question began with trump. he had no idea what to say. rubio said the issue is not talking with putin. the issue is showing him strength. and he immediately slam dunked that question. he doesn't have the moment but has a consistently high, strong performance across theboard. >> yes. his frame of reference is strong. he comes across with authority. >> absolutely. >> you say fiorina won with rubio second? >> close second. >> and christie coming in third. >> and moderators? . >> i thought throwing meat into the arena like wwe without the entertainment value. >> charles krauthammer, and later, bernie goldberg will tell us if any of the debate moderators really screwed this is big. like big big. at&t and directv are now one. bringing television and wireless together. so you'll get your tv from home on the go. which means you can watch movies while you're on the move. sitcoms, while you sit on those. and even fargo, in fargo! you can

trump went after marco rubio. marco rubio went after mr. trump.nd marco rubio responded back. >> you say donald trump doesn't throw the first punch. >> no. he's a counterpuncher. he doesn't pick a fight but if you pick a fight with him, you're going to lose. >> is mr. trump possibly seeing marco rubio as a threat? let's put up the latest poll numbers. you see donald trump still on top, of course. he has gone from 24% to 26% in new hampshire. carly fiorina has gone up from 1% to 16%, marco rubio from 3% to 9%. >> wow, these numbers are astronomical for marco rubio. if there's a debate tomorrow, donald trump is still front and center. he's still eight times higher in the polls than marco rubio. he doesn't think about marco rubio. marco rubio doesn't mean anything to him. and as far as foreign policy, what gives marco rubio the right to talk about foreign policy? >> he's on the senate foreign relation committee. >> look at where we're at as far as this country is concerned. we're a disaster in this country as far as foreign policy. we're not respecte

this time with fellow gop presidential candidate marco rubio. on msnbc's "morning joe" yesterday trump made a comment about rubio being sweaty. >> i'm looking at guys like marco rubio, who has the worst voting record in the united states senate, and young guy, although he sweats more than any young person i've ever seen in my life. i've never seen a person sweat -- i've never seen a guy down water like he downs water. >> well, later in the day rubio sat down for an interview with kentucky sports radio, and at one point he called trump a very touchy and insecure guy. then, late last night trump fired off this tweet saying quote, just watched marco rubio on television. just another all talk, no action politician. truly doesn't have a clue. worst voting record in senate. >>> this is the first time rubio and trump have gotten into an extended back and forth but it seems like nothing new for the donald. a spokesperson for fox news says trump will be meeting with fox news chairman roger ailes next week. they'll be discussing their, quote differences o

the money for marker and rubio -- for walker and rubio has dried up considerably. as one of them collapses in a case of walker and flatlined in the case of rubio, not a lot of people being up for those two. bush has a lot of money. if he can somehow mount a comeback, he could be in this but he will have to do it soon because he starting to look like damaged goods to people who would be his natural constituent in the republican establishment. mark: there is still so much vote up for grabs. getting someump is establishment votes and carson is getting some establishment votes. someone is going to have to take that away. john kasich will continue to grow, but it is not clear to me which of those for right now is best positioned. john: lots more fun stuff coming up on this show. what hillary clinton said about donald trump's view of women, what bernie sanders set at liberty university and what new york fashionistas say about those make america great again hats. that's after this. ♪ candidates, the two must aggressively going after trump are the two women running for pre

they report an announce moss rubio aide saying these is our plan. build a foundation and this is the kicker, with what aide said, when scott walker stumbles, when he starts flailing, then we'll sweep in, pick up the pieces and get more energy, and interestingly, that's exactly what happened. since walker dropped out. online "wall street journal" reported two-thirds of his instruction is going to rubio. >> that's a lot of personnel and aides from the walker camp. do you think there's more pressure than ever to do what governor walker recommended early this week, drop out of the race, clear the field, as challenge to front-runner, presumably donald trump, and get to this. >> i think the pressure will be directed more at folks who are down ballot, christie, bobby jindal, even rand paul, his poll numbers are anemic. i anticipate some folks are saying, time to scoot. so in rubio's case, probably going to dodge that because things are on the upswing for him. >> do you get a sense that rubio has to find this perfect ground on immigration? the rap against r

>> rubio. >> rubio? >> rubio. >> so rubio is hispanic. so he has the advantage of diversity.portant is that? is the republican party hampering itself if it chooses a white male to go up against a female should she become the nominee? >> i'm bothered by that kind of a question because it plays into the identity politics that this administration has brought forward hillary ought to be able to tell us what her accomplish. s are and not just that i will be the first woman. i want the most talented, the most capable and most energetic person possible. that's a man, that's a woman. that's black, whatever it might be. >> think how hillary is going to argue it at the debate. if she becomes the nominee obviously favored to. it's possible fall apart. if she become the nominee. she has already said for example i would love to debate trump. the whole reason i asked donald trump the question i asked him about women this that debate, she is lukely to be the nominee. she is going to raise these issues about the way he has spoken about women. who is the most effective person to take her on?

>> rubio. i will qualify this. i think there's a lot of skepticism about gang of 8 about getting effectively rolled by chuck schumer. i thought he made the right noises to combat this. he was specific on policies. he did hedge on amnesty that might hurt but overall i thought it was a persongood performance. >> has personal experience. >> i have to agree he did a good job he had a personal story. so did jeb bush. jeb bush wrote an immigration plan and put it into effect. his wife is a mexican a former mexican citizen now an american citizen. she can combat the issues trump brought up. they got into a heated exchange on spanish speaking and 14th amendment. >> i thought bush was the loser on this jumping off trump's attacks on his wife he ended up sounding romantic, fluffy pie in the sky. conservatives are skeptical about jeb on immigration and i don't think the performance help pd. >> without a doubt ted cruz due in a close tie donald trump. he doesn't have details on an immigration plan. ted cruz because he is such

we'll talk to donald trump and marco rubio live. first, jon karl on the latest controversy trump is stirring >> reporter: even after a rough and tumble campaign week, donald trump is still the king. >> the future president of the united states of america, donald trump! >> reporter: welcomed last night by the homecoming court at an iowa high school. >> i love you all. have a great dance tonight. trump firestorm is over when faced with this question in new hampshire. >> we have a problem in this country and it's called muslims. we know our current president is one. you know he's not even an america. >> we need the question. >> reporter: trump didn't challenge his supporter's false claim about the president's background. >> if someone brought that up at a town hall meeting of mine, i would say, no, listen, before i answer, let's clear that up >> reporter: trump has no apologies. he recited his twitter account for a crowd saturday. >> so i started by saying am i morally obligated to defend the president every time someone says something

people like marco rubio.doing a really good job of walking the line into showing people he's not going to take these attacks from donald trump, but also not being dominated by it. he quickly pivots back into his own message and that's kind of the line that they need to be walki walking. >> so let's do a little trump translation. do you think if donald trump goes after someone and calls him a loser, does that really mean he's a little nervous? could marco rubio be trump's biggest competition? >> well, here's what i think is -- >> yes or no? >> do i u think he gains anything by going after him, sure. if you go after your competition, and he's a great counterpuncher, so he punched back. >> does he make him nervous? >> i have no idea whether it makes him nervous, but if you're the front runner you should always keep an eye on the people gaining from behind. what i would say here is marco rubio remarkably went from being the anti-establishment candidate to be senator from florida. and was a huge champion of the te

rubio very good.y single answer got applause. >> he's a smart sensitive guy. >> he memorized everything. sounds rote to me. he was okay. he was solid but kind of wonky. >> do you think this translates to poll numbers in any way? >> it's always hard to predict but i'd be shocked if carly doesn't get a big -- >> what about trump? >> i know this is going to pain my friend charlie hurd who has make america great caps. i don't think they've had any memorable moment. >> wait a minute. >> what about ben carson? >> let's be honest here, trump had me laughing out loud. there were moments he said things that were funny. how does that translate into substance, solutions that people want? >> that's the thing. he has zero substance. i think the act is going to grow a little thin. >> even substance -- substance on immigration. he's giving you substance on isis. he even gave you substance on the economy tonight. >> i'll give you immigration. but latest "new york times" poll he's just four ahead of carson. latest new

marco rubio throws a football. >> it is called marco rubio catches football and i felt like it shouldave said lauren ipsom. julie why do you have a problem with the fact that his wife is a former cheerleader? >> pure jealousy. there is no other reason. i would pull her hair and have a cat fight. >> the audience likes that. >> just saying. >> and you made a comment about rubio's heir. hair. i was taught we weren't supposed to make fun of hillary's look so that goes to all candidates ? >>> you can make fun of anyone. high school? >> no. >> did you go to white house? >> at the white house correspondence dinner? >> strong? >> strong. she made a point about how people shouldn't talk about hillary's looks. >> i was a cool mean girl and i will continue to make fun of everybody to keep my street cred up. mic drop. thank you. >> i respect it. >>> the fact that he is a dolphins fan should disqualify him. trump is friends with tom brady. it doesn't get worse than that. i wish strum had the same -- i wish trump had the same video and catching flat footballs. not a fan. >> first of all i didn't pa

rubio has basically stayed static.t this point, with the big debate on wednesday, of those four establishment candidates who has the strongest , hand not just in the debate, but beyond to become the establishment alternative? john: i think right now the person with the strongest hand is john kasich by far. it doesn't really show up in those numbers, where you would see him rise is the one place he's trying to rise, which is in new hampshire, where his numbers have improved appreciably. there's a growing sense among the republican establishment that scott walker has crumbled, marco rubio has never taken off, and that bush has crumbled to the point now that only one who has any forward momentum is john kasich. he could easy optimistic, compassionate conservative that they could rally behind if he continues to perform well and improves on his last debate performance which if you will recall, was very strong. mark: i will tell you what he -- why i think john kasich might be the answer. at least he's doing well in a state.

he's using me for publicity. >> marco rubio is a popular conservative figure in the republican party and i think you're starting to see at some emotional level the unwinding of donald trump under the pressures of the presidential campaign trail. >> reporter: after months of flying under the radar and refusing to comment on trump, rubio is now attacking. perhaps smelling blood in t water on trump's foreign policy debt. >> donald trump had a bad week. carly embarrassed him on stage and he spoke to an empty room in carolina and he is not reacting well to it. >> reporter: tonight he put his spin on today. >> i didn't get boos, i got cheers. >> he did get a standing ovation when he walked into the room and applause and cheers before and after the booing. but when i asked someone in the crowd if they would vote for him and they laughed and said no, he is not religious or conservative enough. lester. >> katy tur, thank you. >>> here in new york, it was a day filled with emotion and deep symbolism as pope francis touched the lives of tens of thousands. the scene at the madison square garden.

trump made a comment about rubio being sweaty. >> i'm looking at guy likes marco rubio, who has the worst voting record in the united states senate. and a young guy, although he sweats more than any young person i've ever seen in my life. i've never seen a person sweat. i've never seen a guy down water like he does. >> rubio sat down for an interview with kentucky sports radio and at one point he called trump a touchy and insecure guy. and later that night. trump just watched a rue owe on television. doesn't have a clue. worst voting record in senate. this is the first time rubio and trump have gotten into an extended back and forth but it seems like nothing new for the donald. a spokesperson for fox news says trump will be meeting with the roger ailes next week and they will be discussing the quote, difference of opinion on the presidential run. >>> and chuck todd will have an interview with hillary clinton and also be speaking with the only other woman competing for the white house, car lie fiorina. and bill karins is here. >> a little too hot in areas of the west. they are known for se

he attacked marco rubio.t tells you a little bit about what that kind of voter thinks about trump. but it's such a small sample, don, and historically these straw polls are not very predictive. so -- but, you know, maybe it's because he wasn't that well received there. our polls show him doing quite well with evangelicals. >> he is -- >> but that's where ben carson has paved his way. those social conservatives, if they are not with trump, they are supporting the ben carsons, the ted cruzs. it's where they feel more comfortable. >> i've got 20 seconds. i want to ask you about jeb bush. he gets only 7% in the latest polls. "the washington post" says big money donor res apressuring him to improve or else. ryan or mercedes? >> look, i think he has one thing going for him and that is money, right? and he will be, at the end of this process if he gets knocked out in iowa and knocked out in new hampshire, i don't think he moves on from there. he has to do very well in one of those two states. >> to ryan's point, new

marco rubio really showed his potential. he didn't have as many opportunities as some of the other candidates, but when he had them, he was a very strong communicator. as you move forward, you will see more of that from marco rubio. >> the prizefight continued. trump went after carly on his business record, and she came back at him. >> the company is a disaster and continues to be a disaster. they still haven't recovered. on the front page of "the wall street journal", they fired another 25 or 30,000 people saying, we still haven't recovered. she can't run any of my companies. that i can say. >> you ran up mountains of debt by using other people's money and were forced to file for bankruptcy not once, not twice him a four times, a record four times. why should we trust you to manage the finances of this nation any differently than you manage the finances of your businesses? >> governor? >> governor christie attack both of those two a few minutes later. >> carly, listen, the fact is that we don't want to hear about your caree

you put trump next to rubio, rubio looks pretty good. i hope somehow that somebody can stop rubio. i'm not worry ied about trump. i'm worried about rubio. >> do you think the tactic will backfire on him? >> absolutely. what a quote from donald trump. if you believe in something, you have to be true to yourself. the only truism we have seen from donald trump in this campaign is inis subtling everybody whether it's name calling or going after carly fiorina's face, the latest comment about marco rubio. the reason for that is he doesn't have real answers and real solutions on issues. we saw that in the cnn debate recently where e we saw he didn't have answers on key issues of foreign policy. e he didn't have answers on domestic policies. he didn't have answers on anything. we e see not only does he not have answers to policies and that's going to be his down fall. >> i want you to listen to this jeb bush comment made during a town hall in south carolina. he was responding to a question about how the republican party could win african-american votes. listen to this. >> a message of hope

very good night for marco and rubio. trump. >> listen to this snippet when he was pushed on syria and how rubio responded. >> it's a mess. you look at isis and think of this, we're fighting isis. ie tis wants to fight syria. why are we fighting isis in syria. let them fight each other and pick up the remnants. >> you would reach out to vladmir putin. >> we will get along. we won't have the problems that our country has with russia and many other nations. >> the russians will begin to fly combat missions not just targeting isis but in order to prop up assad. he will turn the other regions and say america is no longer ally egypt and saudi arabia. begin to rely on us. he's trying to replace us as the single most important power broker in the middle east and this president is allowing it. >> you have a politician there many marco rubio but sounding really good. this is the year of the non-politician. i guess on the other side you had carly who seemed to have just as much knowledge on foreign policy. >> absolutely. you saw a

he sent this e-mail to marco rubio's campaign manager. "hey, man, you'd better wake up. beeson," who is rich beeson, marco rubio's deputy campaign manager, the he says threw the punch. "beeson punched me in the face. cops involved." six minutes later at 12:57 a.m. he got a response from marco rubio's campaign manager, "well, if you were talking bleep i'm glad he did. besides, we need more space and we want to take over your townhouse when rand is done." the following morning, this morning marco rubio's campaign manager apparently had second thoughts about that initial response. the "national journal" reports that he sent another e-mail to the same guy, to the punchee, saying, "i assumed you were kidding when you sent this last night. guess i was wrong. sorry. i didn't realize it was a real situation." local police are apparently now investigating this bar fight. rand paul's political director says he does want to press charges. but the local prosecutor will have to decide if criminal charges are going to be brought against marco rubio's deputy miss campaign manager. but

marco rubio and donald trump going at it. >> marco rubio sits behind a desk sometimes and he reads stuffhe is in committees. that's all he does. i create jobs all day long. i'll know more about all of this than all of them put together. we'll have a winning strategy. if marco rubio is good, how come we are doing so badly? >> he is on the foreign relations committee. >> i am not in government. marco rubio, he is like a kid. he shouldn't be running in the race. he is a kid. >> when the debate turned to policy, he stood silence for 23 minutes. that's why he had such a bad debate. that's why he is now rekt aing the way he is, continuing to criticize anyone that offends him. he is very thin-skinned. he can't hav a conversation about policy, because, quite frankly, he doesn't know anything about policy. >> is this the latest shoving match or is trump vulnerable now? >> i think trump is vulnerable. i think he had a very poor performance at the debate last week. carly took it to him very hard. marco rubio had a great evening. carly had a great evening. donald trump sort of just shrunk into the b

he was followed by rubio and then trump.ip side this poll was also asked who did the worst job in that debate. 31% said trump did the worst followed by rand paul and jeb bush. showing how the candidates do goes a long way in setting a tone and the momentum on the campaign trail going forward. >> one loss showing who rose and who fell. thanks very much. >>> ahead, ben carson said he would not support a muslim american for president. that wasn't the only controversy from the sunday morning shows. hear what carson and donald trump said after this. quals ove. at ally bank no branches equalsit's a fact.. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. >>> supporter this morning on nbc's meet the press he refused to concede that even president obama is a christian. >> can you imagine supporting or being comfortable if a muslim became president of the united states? >> i can say that it's