when we moved to oak ridge into ve, shefab on east dri had to take the role of a pioneer woman. because she had to walk to the grocery store, or even hitchhike. everybody was so friendly and they picked up people to help each other. that was a big help. washing wi to do the th a scrub board. and do it in the sink. had to hang out her clothes that were washed on a line in the back. the flat tops in the summer got so hot that the interior of the house was over 90 degrees. said, igineer, i thought of evaporating cooling that could help. i bought a step ladder and i started pouring buckets of water on the roof, the flattop roof, which really helped to cool the house. some of the neighbors saw what i was doing, and pretty soon, all of them down the street, everybody was pouring water on the roof to keep cool. [laughter] with thoseput up kinds of living conditions. we were in a lower place, being at the bottom of the hill. when it rained, the front yard was mud. we had wooden sidewalks. rats inhabited underneath the sidewalks. she had few outlets, because eating a mother, a lot of --