tom dewey had met with young richard nixon early in 1952 in a suite in new york city, and offered -- eisenhower isn't even running yet, and dewey offered him the vice presidential nomination. nixon was going to deliver the california nomination but he didn't have to. the fair play amendment through it to eisenhower -- threw it to eisenhower. when you think of a candidate, you want them to fill gaps. young, conservative so that presidential candidate can be a moderate. energetic. the second-leading public face for anti-communism in the country at the time. nixon was a perfect choice. he doesn't look too excited, does he? on the other side of the coin, i type in democratic convention and i get the successful movement to draft eisenhower. what is with wikipedia? -- the successful movement to draft stevenson. what is with wikipedia? this is harder, because there was a draft movement. it was run by walter johnson, but it did not draft stevenson. this is what i thought happened. harry truman stepped out and suddenly said, you're my boy. that is not what happened. what happened, the story is

tom dewey, as early as 1949, knew that he could not run again. he wanted to desperately, but he would be humiliated at the convention. taft would be his brains in. so instead, he decided to become a kingmaker. he starts pulling like-minded republican leaders, carlson from kansas. duff from pennsylvania, and others together into a shadow organization for eisenhower, keeping his name out there. he keeps a link to eisenhower through general lucius clay. clay was one of eisenhower's closest friends, a constant companion in nato and paris, and he would communicate to eisenhower through clay. clay was the individual who organized the berlin airlift. that theyt to him needed some organization on the ground, he turned to the junior senator from massachusetts, henry cabot lodge. he was working so hard that he let slide to a kid he did not think could beat him in 1952. young congressman john f. kennedy. eisenhowergave to in 1952 hurt him in the long run. he formed what was called the eisenhower committee. when eisenhower changes his mind, he comes back to

. >> as i mentioned, since tom dewey in 1948 you've been voting republican. >> ever since. >> so whenlook at some of these ads and even jeb bush has been attacking donald trump for essentially being a democrat in republican's clothing, who do you think seems like the most republican republican jeb bush aside? >> you know, we've got some pretty good -- i'm a carly fan. >> you like carly fiorina. >> oh, yeah. >> what do you like about her? >> well, she's smart, and she's had experience. she's -- >> kind of sassy. >> she didn't have any problem in the last debate, if you remember. >> she shone in that last debate. that's why she's in this one. >> she ran out and hid from them, she was so far out in front. that could happen tonight. i've got two horses in there. i've got jeb and carly. i'm going to be well represented. >> we'll see how they do and see if jeb bush can get rid of that molasses. t. boone pickens, thank you so much for your time. >> sure. >> make sure to tune in tonight for the first of those two debates beginning at 6:00 eastern and then the main attraction, the mega debate,