joining me are the exhibition curators ann temkin and anne umland. i am pleased to have them both at this table. what wonderful titles. >> we're proud of them. >> rose: you should be. why now? everybody is raving about this. picasso attracts a crowd for his brilliance and the diversity of his work and the constantly changing work that he did. and this realization that sculpture is such an important part of his work. >> right. >> rose: and it hadn't been here how many years? >> 50. and i think the general fact is that sculpture is less known and less thought about than painting because it's harder to make a scene. it takes up more space, more trouble to transport, more trouble to arrange in a gallery and, so, therefore, across the board sculpture is less well known, but particularly with picasso. >> rose: how good was picasso as a sculptor? (laughter) >> as good as he was at everything else, i think. i mean, i think that's one of the revelations of the show. >> rose: that's exactly what someone said to me. i had no idea he was as good a sculptor as he