dr. dawn marie nappi, legislative board member for long island, and sarah haiken, the youth committee chair for long island. thank you so much for making time for us. talk to us, mr. mallow, about the services that madd brings to people and what that costs. >> first, let me preface everything by saying all the services to victims that madd provides we provide free of charge. we don't charge anything for any of the services that we have. we have victim services, people on long island and albany and also in upstate new york, to the west, towards buffalo. and these services are everything from working with been killed or injured by drunk or drugged drivers, and we walk them through the process of the courts, through the process of counseling, bereavement, and more important, when the court system is done and everything's been adjudicated, we're with these families for as long as they want. there's no time limit like with most counseling and most outreach. we're there for a very, very long time. >> but is this all pro bono? you need donations, don't you? >> we need donations. >> that's the thin