but working as his chief of staff had him speaking separately about transition to talk to read jim bakker and the george shultz and how transition's work and also of the recruitment process with personnel. and not just for president obama but the presidency itself the institution which you are having in your hands to make sure that institution remains strong. so i think that is one of the reasons he started nearly. and he told his chief of staff he wanted him to handle it whenever he needed to he could come to him to get his approval or thinking so bolton did that. but also he was involved in the financial crisis and he was juggling all of this. so on a daily basis to deal with the executive director for the obamacare transition that is the legislative affairs assistant for senator obama that was in law school together. he had the full confidence so on a daily basis after the election people going into departments to gather information if there were any issues they could dispose of them within one day and there were very few. >> i recall a meeting that i know well a breakfast meeting and