. >> the director of the meks ka movement, an organization that aims to educate about indigenous rightshave you on the program. let me start here with you. i have read some -- columns the -- you know, the comment sections to columns that are written about this day. one caught my eye, and it goes something like this. how is columbus day anything more than a holiday to honor someone who enslaved, discriminated against, killed and took the land of native people? would you differ with that view of columbus day in any significant way? >> again, i would focus more on the genocide aspects of it fshg that he initiated basically a holocaust for our people across the whole continent. i would say, you know, read his journals, read it in his own words, so people don't think we're making all of this up. it's a really ugly journal, where he dehumanizes our people. >> yeah, expand on that idea of the genocide aspects of columbus's journey. >> before columbus got to our continent here, the spaniards had been to the canary islands, and they whacked out all of the population of the canary islands, so the