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do you see paul ryan moving into a role as a long-term speaker like tip o'neil who could have the job for a decade or do you think he is thinking of this of an interim gig. >> he is in the best possible position he could be in right now. the freak show is quiet right now. nine decenters not bad at all. boehner did a real favor in getting the debt limit, the budget off the table for a while. he has a lot of good will. he is young, popular, optimistic. you can only spin gravity for so long. it is not too long before he has to cross the few dozen hard liners who made john boehner's life miserable. it is going to happen to him, as well. i was in the chamber this morning watching all this. there was a sense of optimism that maybe it could be different. i think everybody should be hoping and praying it is. i wouldn't bet on paul ryan or anybody else being very content in this job for a very long time. >> he said he is definitely going to play golf in his conference with custom made ohio plates which i think he liked a lot and possibility of corporate boards. he had a line. he said, quote, r

o'neill. >> wow. >> if you are paul ryan, why do you want this? chairman of the house ways and means committee, in a policy-making position, which is the sort of role that i think he casts for himself. he is a deep thinker. he is a jack kemp type in the gop. this is not a gig that puts you -- >> he is a family man. wants to see his kids on the weekend. >> work doesn't put you closer to the white house, i don't think. at least not traditionally. >> this is what speaker boehner said today. it's not helpful for one group of members to say they will only vote for this candidate on the floor and it's not helpful for another group of members to say they will only vote for a different candidate on the floor. it's up to the people in this room to listen to each other, come together and figure this out. when you look at this, this is what i was thinking about this morning. on the surface it appears that it's the outsiders who are winning in terms of if you want to call it a race to be speaker and not the heir apparent, republican establishment. same is tru

a shutdown off the table so paul ryan looks clear in this job maybe through the 2016 election, but is that same fate that every other speaker before him since tip o'neill has suffered, will he ultimately suffer that too. >> historian and author michael beschloss, whoever was the first to invoke the term pendulum to describe the shift of power between the parties, between and among the parties in american politics was really on to something. think about the eras of o'neill, of rayburn, of mccormick, and think about what we witnessed today. >> right. and one of the pendulum swings has always been between strong speakers and weaker speakers. and there have been a lot more weak speakers in american history than strong speakers. if paul ryan wants to accomplish the things that he talked about today, he's going to have to be a strong speaker. one other thing unusual, this is a new speaker who had an awful lot of americans three years ago vote for him for vice president. only james polk ever went from the speakership to the presidency. brian, earlier you said this was almost like a state of the union. it was more like speeches that you hear from a new speaker