joining us now is bill o'keefe, vice president for government relations anded a vo ed advoca catholicef services. let me just start with your concern, if you have it, about what this might mean to organizations like yours and the willingness of countries to accept people who are fleeing literally for their lives. >> thanks, chris. we do have a concern about that, and we hope that people will realize that the refugees that we're assisting are fleeing exactly the sorts of people who perpetrated these attacks in paris and the daily lives in syria and to a lesser extent in some of the neighboring countries of those people resemble friday night in paris except for it's every night for four years and that's why they're fleeing, and our goal is to try and educate americans about the reality of the experience of these folks and help them to avoid demonizing the innocent. >> let me allow you though to take on the argument that we hear from some people, and it's a concern that even if you have thousands of refugees who are truly trying to get away from a deadly situation, taking their children,