give best access by following c-span another capitol hill reporter on twitter. stay with c-span, c-span radio command c-span.org for your best access to congress. >> next on a look at the criminal justice system from the perspective of two former prison inmates. this is an hour and 20 minutes. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] ladies and gentlemen, thank you all for >> thank you for coming. i am a visiting fellow at the american enterprise institute and a columnist at the washington examiner. and i think you have seen especially in this last year a discussion our criminal justice reform, over criminalization of all sorts of things. we will focus on specific aspect. mymy thoughts on why i picked prison specifically. i have libertarian leanings. i am a catholic. justice and mercy need to be played out. on the other hand, i don't know or think that we would it into a question of maybe we are locking up the millions of people we lock up to make our people safer. having prison sentences serves a deterrent effect. it keeps dangerous criminals off the street. we call these correctional fac