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howard fineman. is it going too far right or has it got it right?as it figured out the country and it might just win the general election next year, even against hillary? >> here's the thing. i think they've figured out the emotions of their voters, who i'm telling you, the republicans and people who think of themselves as conservatives are going to walk through walls to vote in 2016, all over the country and especially in the presidential election. >> is that a majority of the country? >> i don't think it's quite a majority. what the republicans have to do is find the person who can keep that excitement going and not excite the fear that will produce the same kind of turnout on the other side. and i don't know who that is. >> i don't know who it is either. >> matt bevin cannot be elected president. he struggled to win in a very conservative state. i really think the trumps and the ben carsons, if the republicans want to win the election people have -- why not pick a normal traditional candidate you might get over the line? >> because 2/3 of the cou

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>> he called howard fineman, evan thomas, and the answer to the big-a is "n-o." that shut it down. >> mrs. bush was apparently angry, or upset. she thought that it would feed the story. then vice president vice president bush said in his diary that he worried that barbara was right, but the parents were wrong. it put the story to rest. >> given that bush's '92 unofficial slogan was annoy the media, reelect bush, but before you got there, 1987 ran that famous cover, calling him a wimp. how did you persuade bush 41 to give all these interviews and share the documents? >> good question. i found this to be a much more complicated an intend figure. my argument to them was that this was my book-writing part of my life. you're a multitasker too, you know this. there was a loot of question, because i was coming from the -- now, what would you had done if you had wanted to take back or asked you not to use some of what he said. >> i was simply going to note parenthetically that whatever response he had had. >> give him the chants to revise or -- >> just extend. >> in some

howard fineman, director of the huffington post. molly hemingway. we are joined by joan walsh.nspacific the ship trade deal, donald trump joined a lot of the people on the hard left who said the agreement didn't deal with china's currency manipulation. he was correct on that point by rand paul. let's watch. >> if you look at the way china and india and almost everybody takes advantage of the united states, china in particular because they are so good. it's the number one of user of this country. if you look at the way they take advantage, it's through currency manipulation. it's not even discussed in the almost 6000-page agreement. it's not even discussed. i say it a very bad deal and should not be approved. if it is approved, it will be more bad trade deals, more loss of jobs for our country. we are losing jobs like nobody has ever lost jobs before. it i want to bring jobs back into this country. >> gerard, we might want to point out china is not part of this deal. >> true. that's true. >> there is an issue of currency manipulation from china, which is an issue that his people

i'm joined by howie jackson, eugene robinson and howard fineman. welcome to the show. >> thank you. >> it seems the republican party is becoming unglued. the rnc doesn't have much clout. boehner had no clout. the party establishment has been losing badly on all the polls to the outsiders. let's get into this. how combustious is this? >> if that is the word you want to use. >> i don't think it's a word. >> look at jeb bush. he's down 8%. this is emblematic. this insurgency trying to block out the rest of the establishment. that's what you're seeing not just with jeb bush but why he is trying to reframe himself as somebody disruptive in politics. >> they don't want a moderator in anything. they don't want anything organized. now they are saying we don't want ben ginsburg helping us to get together. >> no. this is like a riot. this is a riot inside the republican party. candidates want to take it over for themselves and have the power to do that. >> can trump declare some, my debate night" and invite other republicans to come? >> who knows. ben carson

howard fineman, great to see you. thank you. >>> so we are asking what you think about the presidential race as we are now a year out from electing the next commander in chief. my colleague here with the bing pulse question of the day. >> we are still in the marathon but we are at that milestone a year away and with the new poll showing ben carson topping the gop race, we are asking you should the political outsider win the white house? as we launch this at the top of the hour, look at the voting so far, 67% of our viewers now growing to 68% saying yes. 32% of our viewers say no. a political outsider should not win the white house. interesting when we have donald trump leading the polls up until this last polling we are seeing showing ben carson in the lead. the differences they have, similarities, but at this point, 72% as you are seeing that jump. keep the debate going. pulse.msnbc.com is where you go to cast your vote. we will bring you the results throughout the show. >> thanks so much. we will talk again soon. >>

and joining me now to talk about how the race is shaping up for 2016, we have howard fineman, the global editorial director for the "huffington post," jackie kucinich, and msnbc contributor, jonathan capehart of "the washington post." welcome to all of you. howard, let me start with you. you've heard the line as much as anybody else, the donald trump phenomenon, the ben carson phenomenon, being written off as something we've seen before, whether it was newt gingrich or rick santorum or michele bachmann four years ago. the idea that it's a territory thing. the fact that it's gone on as long as it has, are you now looking at this and saying, trump, carson, one or both of them is something new and different? >> well, i think they're both new and different to some extent. i would say at this point, ben carson actually has a greater chance to stay the course. and i say that not just because of the numbers in the nbc poll, but because of the depth and the breadth of his grassroots support. he's raised a ton of money. most of it from small donors. he, in fact, leads fund-raising in many respect

. >>> i'm back with gene robinson, howard fineman, and molly hemingway. night tonight for trmp. challenge my thesis. this guy is a nationalist on trade, on immigration, on everything. he's the guy that's going to fight for america. he'll be the american putin, okay? or waste it all on a stupid intermural fight with carson and rubio? >> what's interesting about this debate, we've seen the maximum, there's a sealing and a floor of trump and carson. so what will be interesting is to see how the rest of the primary stacks up. you're starting to see some coalescing. you have the establishment primary, the conservative primary, i don't think it's going to be, unless he really surprises us, i don't think he has much to show us tonight. who? >> trump. >> you think trump's on the resurgence? >> i think, probably. interestingly, the last couple of debates, he kind of laid low in a way. and i don't think he can do that again. i think he needs to be more prominent, first of all. and second, i think these issues, that's the issue that's his wheelhouse, basically. is h