kindt was a very colonial of existence, the americans only fraternize with americans, everything was very cheap, -- americans, with everything was very cheap, it was like living in india. executions, and before the execution, i said -- i've received several death threats, and after those death threats, i would take my name off of the door. but it was comfortable in the sense that we could travel. it was a nice country, it had young,untains, we were but it was not a happy place to be. you always felt beleaguered, sort of, you were surrounded by persons who regarded you as a firm in the years before and suddenly, they had never heard of such a thing -- you as a kind beforein in the years and suddenly, they had never heard of such a thing, so nevertheless, they were not unhappy years, but we were determined to leave before the job is really done. -- was really done. >> [indiscernible] nobody could live in germany without seeing black-market activity, everything was run on the black market, i mean, there were rations and you could choose between bread or beer, but there was an official b