the longestrs, overnight success you will ever see.ompanyt i had another in the end that's the fun thing and doing a startup. it in your blood it was time to go and do something else? >> i think it was. 18 years is a long time to do one thing. it was a wonderful life experience. >> most startups don't last 18 years. in 2008, did you know you wanted to do drugs? >> -- drones? >> yes. the place you can make the most capability. with a droneround much easier than with a ground robot. outdoors is almost a superhighway for the drones. >> at that time, drones were not really a thing. it's only the last two or three years. drones you think in 2008 were already possible and what did you see there? cheat and getto where you need to go very easily. outdoors above the treetops, about the telephone poles, it's really free space. not to avoid a plane once but in general, it's a big space and a very small drone. >> was the technology there in 2008? >> it had just come about when we started doing gps stabilization. incident needing a qualified pilot