. >> rose: what was your relationship to phillip johnson? >> i loved him, personally. i never got into the german stuff. i once did. >> rose: yeah, i did, too. (laughter) >> you couldn't not at some point become engaged in that. >> rose: basically there was a fascination with the nazi period. >> well, he was fascinated by the power. i think he was actually attracted physically to the handsome german youth, and the allure of all that kind of blinded him to what was going on politically. i think over the years he sufficiently repented in public for that so it was not fair to hold it against him. >> rose: here is phillip johnson talking about you on this program. do you have any sense of where it's going now? where are we? >> actually, i have. right in the middle of it. and to me, frank gehry is probably the best direction. i'm very proud to find somebody like frank gehry sitting there playing with chain link fences and doing his own house, and i realized there was something i couldn't define. i couldn't say, gee, i get this direction, that's interesting. i felt baffled.

johnson. i'm navajo and from arizona. [ applause ] >> my name is phillip douglas. i'm 15 years old.'m a member of the seminole nation of oklahoma. i'm in tenth grade. [ applause ] >> before we get started, i would like to let you know that in addition to the panelists questions, we also have a couple that we got from the online community. up first we have tatiana. >> hello. >> hello. >> my question is, is there any way you can get teachers to understand alaska native and american indian students more better? is there a way we can get rid of eliminate stereotyping and racism within schools? >> it's a great question. first of all, i just really appreciate you guys being here. we're so proud of you. i think it's fair to say that when i was their age, i was not making presentations with the president. i just want to point that out. i think it's also important to point out that jude can really ball. she's being kind of modest in talking about her basketball skills. since i am a basketball fan, i'm very impressed. her and her sister i think have really made all of indian country so proud.