so do we have to look at sam hinkie and say this is his issue too. >> sure, yes. think to eliot's point earlier, they lost 17 games to open the season last year. nobody beat up any fans. nobody drove 100 miles an hour. can't be an excuse for that, you know? so i think it's part of it. i think sam hinkie has to be responsible just because he's not talking about it i don't think means he's not address theing it. >> the other thing if you're going to build with these top picks, if you're obviously try to get these, you have to get them right. whenever anything looks like it's going wrong people are going to pound, jahlil has this; correct, jahlil still having a good year statistically on the court he's been a good player, when you invest so much, every little small thing that goes wrong is going to get magnified. >> but going into tonight they've lost 27 games in a row getting back to last season. this could be the worse season ever. >> it's just. >> mind blowing? i think the process -- he says it actually, it doesn't matter. it's ball -- and brett brown sitter befor