in sub-sahara africa, it is one of the main ways that vocal music is organized. [call and response singing] (man) call and response is the lifeblood of african people. and so, for example, when we played "kakilambe," there was a call, ♪ maimbo maimbo mama maimbo kakilambe be boom be ♪ and we responded. and so, as you could see, there is a lead person singing, and we respond directly. so if you had to connect it to, perhaps, a western sense of it, you would have section a stated and then section a repeated. in the ceremony for kakilambe, call and response plays a very important part within the music. it's a harvesting dance. you're calling to kakilambe for blessings. (man) call and response goes back to the communal nature of african music. traditionally, in africa, there are truly no spectators. everybody's involved. so if somebody is starting a ceremony or singing a song, everybody answers. there's a call. it brings everybody into the ceremony, so that it ties the community together. ♪ it's me. ♪ it's me, oh, lord. (chorus) ♪ i am standing in... (man) call and r

they're the same issues as africa or sub sahara africa.nk that it is our duty as leaders in this world to set an example and be sure that we are driven just by shareholders, but that we are driven by the needs of consumers, and if we cater to them very well, business will perform. >> you must be disappointed that nuts more ceos think like you. paul: you cannot sit here and get frustrated by the attitudes of others or the speed with which things move. you should just continue to focus on bringing the right people together and moving these barriers. sometimes, you think why can we move faster? whom i to judge? the best thing to show is that we can have a business model where we do well, but also do good for the shareholders. the more we do that, the more we see other people work. one of the reasons that you see short issues with ceos is really because a lot of the ceos are not equipped for the challenges of today's world. >> which are what? paul: faster moving, more compact. issues of water, energy, food. you squeezable at one-sided pops out

the average anglican is an african woman in her 30s, living in sub-sahara africa on less than $4 a day. so what you see in this country or in the united kingdom, aus industrial i can't, new zealand, canada, is really the exception. on the whole, to use pope francis' phrase, we are a poor church with the poor. >> it's an amazing statistic. >> and there's about 18 million of them. >> 18 million. >> roughly. >> and so where -- that is a very important data point. but where does the -- where is the concentration? what's sort of the macro data behind that? where is the membership growing? what are the trends you see? >> it's very typical of many of the traditional historic churches. the main line churches typically are growing in the global size a -- south and so are we and shrinking or static in the global north and so are we. in england, we were at our height in the 1930s, about 3.5 million people, and today we are about 1.2 million, bit more, 1.5 million depending on how you measure it, and whereas in nigeria, roughly 17 to 20 million people attend anglican churches on a regular basis. >

we have to accept that he was -- closing the sub sahara africa from refugees away, he didn't allow them to embark. now we have lawlessness and they do embark. and last year -- but they are still continuing to come over the mediterranean. i would say that -- i think that in the near future, refugees from ghana or senegal and -- have less of a chance to stay in europe because of the syrians. i think we'll be less generous with african refugees than we used to because of the other syrian -- the syrian, afghan and the iraqis. >> let's go to this gentleman down here in the front row and then bill. and we'll go around as fast as we can. let's take this question. >> my name is david loudoun, i'm a 40-year analyst and i have' very easy question for you. it seems that the west and europe has been forced just by sheer numbers to be reactive. how we get ahead of this power curve and address it in a humane way and for mr. gati, on the issue of conspiracy theories, one of the kpurs conspiracy -- conspiracies or talking floated is syria is actively supporting the egress of syrian sunnis so that, one,