president, and if you take his name off, we do know that woodrow wilson had racist views and so did abraham lynnn. then the debate is the person of the time and name should stay on this or time to change these names to reflect a society that's different than it was a century ago? >> the question is if you take away the name of woodrow wilson, you remove a name that, that is painful for many, many people. but on the other hand, you also take away a chance for a discussion. if the name prompts people start talking about racial issues, that's something. but if it isn't there to prompt them, then you muss them, maybe missed an opportunity. >> but when they were belding a new t.c. williams high school and debating this name, t.c. williams, he's 20th century superintendent alexandria schools that supported segregation. so when they were demolishing the new building and building a new one, they debated this topic. do we want to keep this name? they decided to keep in it in large bauds because it was associated with the movie "remember the titans" more so than the individual. then there's the other exam