. >> the chief of police of san bernardino, clatch. bill stanton retired investigator, nypd police officer. and another officer from atlanta. a warrant served on a house in redlands, california not far from san bernardino, and that's where police encountered that suv and there was a pursuit and a shootout that ended up in san bernardino, so clearly, it sounds to me like bill, police knew where they may have known where they lived or where they were hiding out in redlands and that's where they caught these guys. >> that's right. now to me it's sounding more like two. >> more like two? >> yes. >> why do you say this after you hear it the second time? >> after hearing it the second time, they said the secure in place they heard some people jumping over fences didn't know whether it was cops or whatever, they came to the conclusion it was unfounded, that's why they lift they'd. if there were three, how come there's not a massive man hunhut going on? i'm leaning towards two shooters. >> it's interesting vincent when you hear it the second t