in the ceremonial courtroom dealing with one of the most important telecommuter keeshan's questions of the era -- to telecommunications questions of the era, it was fascinating. i think the trend is much as i have only suspected. i think a likely result is a hodgepodge of wins and losses that will create a swiss cheese regime, which is what i have been concerned about all along. it is not about spectacular victory or loss. it is whether a coherent, holistic representation the government has made about how it would do this could end up -- stand up. it is my belief it will not stand up and will leave more confusion and complexity instead of finality despite that being what we were promised. i suspect any result will be considered for appeal to the supreme court. we would have four months to wait to find out. peter: when you were chairman of the fcc working on the net neutrality issue, did you ever think it would be at the point it is today? michael: no. in fact