e was recently sued after mike brown's case. recently sued in the last month r two by a grand jury that he illegally removed from the grand jury because he thought he had a propensity to lock at things differently. he's a former aclu attorney. is.hink i know he they haven't announced his name i lic le, he's john doe, but know who he is. taken off the grand jury in violation of state law. think they don't shape outcomes? ou think they don't decide who gets justice and who doesn't? host: elsa is joining us from line.apolis, 50 and over elsa, good morning, you're on the "washington journal." your view of race relations in the u.s.? caller: good morning. i'm glad i've got a chance to kind of bring something forward. first of all, i marched in the civil rights back in the '60s. i married an african-american man. e have five children, 23 grandchildren, and eight great. we have what you would call the rainbow coalition. they're doing well, and i'm very grateful for that. but what i see here in inneapolis and especially through the blac

case, which if you remember, both forensic evidence and witness accounts found mike brown was charginghe police officer and going for the gun. so it is rooted based on false facts and people should be honest about it. >> all right. >> the black lives matter movement has been firmly injected into the campaign trail. it is having a reaction from the candidates. and we will continue to watch that. >> and bernie sanders is one of the main people who stand behind it, which i'm enjoying that fact. >> we are talking about tens of millions -- >> the race to the white house will be the big story in 2016. but how are the reporters covering that story shaping the election cycle? journalist judith miller and brent benzel on the media. plus the number of families crossing the southern border into the u.s. illegally is surging. and how the obama administration is setting up it tackle the problem is called a political move to h i accept i'm not 22. i accept i'm not the rower i used to be. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart val

mix your brown sugar -- mike: brown sugar -- boom. rosie: your pecans. and then a teaspoon of vanilla. mike: this is where it gets tricky for me because i have to measure out how much is going in there. rosie: there you go. voila. mike: is there anything else we should be doing? rosie: i will get the top ready to cover the brie, and i will get all of these spaces out of mike: i would say this is like old times, but usually when you family room watching tv or something -- [laughter] mike: that is right. rosie: pour that right on top of the brie. mike: a little bit of a mess, but that is ok, right? rosie: that is ok. that is fine. what we will do is bring that edges up to the top of the brie. mike: that i can do. one, too -- i' m not very good at this part. rosie: it looks great. mike: ok. now what? rosie: now we will get this brie -- mike: this is falling apart. it is like a christmas present. rosie: and we are just going to seal this, and seal it on that side. mike: ok, so we put that on top, now this is good to go, we put this in there. rosie: in that c

joining us is special guest dr mike brown. dr brown is a professor of planetary astronomy.e made many significant scientific discoveries, he's probably best known as the man who killed pluto. welcome to "techknow" dr brown, why did you do it? >> the obvious answer is did it have it coming. if it wasn't me someone else would do it. >> tell me the story. >> pluto never should have been called a planet. it was a mistake, just because everyone thought it was big when it was discovered, as big as june it ter and realised it was smaller and smaller. it is smaller than our moon. and there are thousands of other things out there just like it. >>> if pluto is not a planet, what is it? >> the official definition is work planet. which i like to think about things that look like planets. >> i love the story of the declassification of pluto. it's a great example of how new information can change the idea that a group of scientists have about something they take for time. >>> you came up with an announcement about pluto, did you face much feedback? >> i had hate mail for many years, from

it's dangerous because it's based on a lie that mike brown and ferguson, missouri, was gunned down whilerendering, which is proven to be a lie. but also it can lead to less effective policing of poor black communities which need effective policing the most. to the extent cops are afraid to engang, to the extent they back off, don't want to get out of their car, can lead to more violence in these neighborhoods. >> we've seen a revival of crime and murder rates in some of these big cities. i think one of the tragedies of this politically is that you had a movement, bipartisan movement, coming together on criminal justice reform. especially for drug crimes and things like that. this may undercut that. >> yes, i think what's really missing here is some serious leadership in the black community. and, you know, if you look at really the disenfranchisement of the black inner city community, a lot of it has to do with, as you say, criminal justice reform, but also education. and it's kind of ironic that the same people who are complaining about the fact that inner city blacks are not successful

that took place 30 years ago where mike brown lived. 30 years ago. imagine the accumulated experience in history of the people in that community. we had credible witnesses that contradicted darren's story, which he got together, and he was never sent to trial. no one ever got the chance to hear the credible testimony. even if you accept his version, an officer, if i am using deadly force against you because i feel threatened why did you , fire and shot at michael brown while he was running away from you? if i am moving away, am i a threat, am i a threat, i am not. why are you firing at me and you do not think he had a weapon because your statement was he was wrestling and fighting with you over yours. retained it, so that nothing. it should have went to trial. professor hoffman: in addition to your work with looking at police behavior, you have also done some research on human rights abuses, particularly in the st. louis city jails with the aclu. you release the report, "suffering in silence" available online. in 2009 it demonstrated numerous human r

cleveland and was able to visit the site of the shooting -- >> cuts more deeply than the others -- mike brown you are talking -- >> it cuts more deeply because this was a 12-year-old horsing around in a park. i'm sure his mom would have been very upset with him had he come home with that gun and found out what was going on, but at least he would have just been in trouble and not in a grave. >> yeah. so here is the question. some have said this allowed to state-sanctioned violence against tamir rice. where do you come down on that question? >> i think when you have no legal consequences, no criminal consequences, for the killing of an unarmed 12-year-old boy, because he was unarmed -- >> at the end of the day. >> at the end of the day, he was unarmed. you have the state -- an agent of the state killing a 12-year-old boy and then suffering no criminal consequences for it? how can you not look upon that as a sanctioned killing. it's not the electric chair, but it is about the same thing. >> the property -- prosecutor allowed the officers to read a prepared statement to the jury, would facing que

that took place 30 years ago where mike brown lived. 30 years ago. imagine the accumulated experience of the people in that community. when they see -- we had credible witnesses that contradicted darren's story, which he got together, and he was never sent to trial. no one ever got the chance to hear the credible testimony. even if you accept his version, as an officer if i'm using deadly force because i feel threatened, why did you fire and any shot at michael brown while he was running away from you? if i am moving away, am i a threat, am i a threat, i am not. why are you firing at me and you do not think he had a weapon because your statement was he was wrestling and fighting with you over yours and you retained it. so he has nothing. it should have went to trial. in addition to your work looking at calais's behavior, you have also done research on human rights abuses in particularly in the st. louis city jails with the aclu, you released a report, suffering and silence, available online. it demonstrated numerous human rights abuses. what has chan

mike brown versus brandon mashinter.rst period tied at one sharks power play marc-edouard vlasic. tommy between gal perfectly placed shots. >> 2-1 sharks. joe parcel ski in front he redirects it in for a 16th goal. pretty fiscal cliffty sick worked by pa very ski. 3-2 sharks. third period the sharks they can't clear the puck andrew shaw little bit of nice stick work beats martin jones. ties it up at 3. so, we're going to overtime. in over the sharks get caught on a line change. jonathan toews. the blackhawks they beat the sharks 4-3 in overtime. as the sharks they drop to 16-15-26789 but the raiders eliminated from the playoffs and 9ers drop to 4-10. that's the headline. >> not a good headline. >> not a good headline or not for the miss universe pageant. >> that's a whole other story. >> yes, it is. two men stranded in freezing waters for hours. we'll tell you about the remarkable chain of events that finally brought them to safety. >>> police evacuate 2 dozen homes when officials find an explosive device after making an

tuneup, the last game before they get to the so conopenners, they beat mars hill and cullowhee, mike brown's 22 led, their are 5-8 and will host east tennessee state saturday at 2:00 as they start sewcon play. mars hill will be at carson newman saturday. mountain heritage coach susie shelton, 300th career win when the cougars won the holiday classic. mountain heritage beat robberson in the game, 47-41, shelton has been the coach and alma matter since 1999. congrats to her. that's sports this morning. i'm stan pamfilis. we will see you again tonight at 6 o'clock. have a great thursday, everyone. >>holly: it will be a thursday that will determine what the weather will be in the new year, ingrid? >>ingrid: let's take a look outside. we are expecting 58 degrees in buncombe county with partly clear skies. a few showers this m mning in the upstate, but overall, not too bad. especially compared to yesterday. 24 hours ago, wow, big changes. 65 this afternoon. new year's eve, here is your forecast. no rain expected. but cloudy conditions. 39 in asheville for a low. 40 degrees in hendersonville. and m

>> guest: i had a lot of admiration for the people in the streets that were having vigils for mike brown even though the cops were bringing dogs against them. >> cspan: what was your reaction when you found out they didn't indict the police man? >> guest: i cannot say i was surprised. i think the police are the ground level enforces of the state and the state doesn't want to indict police and police unions are very powerful and also police work hand and hand with prosecutors. these are all three reasons why police don't get indicted. i think the only reason police are getting indicted for murdering black people is because of the militant protests. >> cspan: protest works? >> guest: protests work, yeah. >> cspan: here is some of your artwork. >> lawyers and medics came from around the countries. activist from palestine tweeted tips for dealing with tier gas. protesters risked arrest and violence. one local woman gave out water all day to protesters and that night police maced her. she said it felt like hell on fire. protesters in ferguson are extraordinary. the u.s. government doesn't eve

that took place 30 years ago where mike brown lived. thirty years ago.gine the accumulated experience in history of the people in that community and then when they see, as i told you, we had a credible witnesses, credible witnesses that contradicted darren's story it was never sent to trial and no one got a chance to hear the credible testimony against the facts that darren wilson presented and even if you accept his virgin, even if you accept his version, as an officer if i'm using deadly force because i feel threatened or you are a threat to me, why did you fire any shots at michael brown while he was running away from you? if i'm moving away and my friend to you now? in my threatening you? mif right? why are you firing at me? you don't think he had a weapon because your statement was he was wrestling and fighting with you over yours. and you retained it. he didn't get it, so he had nothing. it should have went to trial. >> well, in addition to your work with looking at police behavior, you have also done some research on human rights abuses in particu

floyd: one comes to my mind -- recently, we had the mike brown situation. we go way back to the los angeles area -- i can't remember his name -- rodney king. the incidence that occurred ,here, the damage, the fires one forgets that in the midst of all of this was a large asian-american community that was destroyed. recently, and baltimore and then in los angeles, koreatown. there are incidents that happen that we forget about other people that were involved and in this case, asian americans were very much part of that whole incident. something tould do preserve that memory, that asian americans had to bear. >> other narratives anyone wants to share? know senecale don't falls occurred in 1848. was a women'shere conference that had 20,000 people that adopted a very progressive human rights agenda. happened,l people it they don't know. we should commemorate that in toston so we cannot only go our beginnings, but what happened in 1978 and going forward. with you that we should record the hardships and injustices, because there are a lot of them. i think we have

i took my son to mike brown's funeral. we were in the first pew facing the casket.best person i can be, a moral person, i cannot just scream "cops are killing us, they're shooting us down the streets" and then we have cases like thai sean lee. >> don't put blinders on? >> can't do it. i'm not saying they're doing it, i'm saying i'm doing it. >> president obama, he lived on the south side of chicago. a lot of his conservative critic, wherever he would speak about a mass shooting they come back with "what about anything? what about chicago?" is there a role he can play? and if so, what is it? >> you know what? you've got to ask him that the next time. >> would you like him to play more of a role in it? >> i want anybody that can do anything to help people be murdered anywhere in the united states of america, not just chicago. again, i know i sound like a broken record. 88 americans die everyday due to gun violence, and not just in th the 'hood. >> you can see a longer view of chuck's interview on our web site, nbc meet the press.com. we'll here's a little healthy advi

mike brown's casket right in front of us. time, i can't be selling about what we do in our communities. so it goes hand in hand. >> you've been in chicago before, your history with chicago we all know very well but when you walked through the streets of chicago, what did you hear from those young men who are -- those characters that you have in your film, you are basing this off of people that you encounter. what do you believe they need to stop this violence? >> well, they got to believe that people care about them, that they're loved. they got to know that they can have a job. they got to know that life is precious. lot of these young brothers, they don't care, they die at 18 years old. they're perfectly okay with it. there are a lot of things. there's not going to be one answer that's going to eradicate what's happened on chicago's south side but they have to learn to love themselves. >> when you hear a 14 or 16-year-old say i don't care if i die and really mean it, what does that make you feel afteral of your years on the

this has been going on way before mike brown.en going on way before all that. >> the months since the death of freddie gray have been tumultuous for baltimore. political upheaval has taken out the city's top leaders while activists and community leaders have ramped up their efforts to bring change to a city that desperately needs it. all during one of the most violent periods in baltimore's recent history. >> baltimore's homicide count has passed 300. >> as of this weekend, 2015 marks baltimore's deadliest year in more than a decade. >> reporter: in the immediate aftermath of six baltimore police officers being charged in connection with the 25-year-old's death, arrests in the city dropped so precipitously the mayor suggested police were engaged in a work slowdown. >> as long as they plan to cash their paycheck, our expectation, my expectation is that they work. >> meanwhile, homicides in the city spiked. >> police leaders won't acknowledge it so much now, but at the time they were saying we are afraid to do our jobs, we are unsu

sixers r nba cope of the year mike antoni brett brown's top assistant. what a resume.ead coach of sixers son and devils. >> i coached him in the olympic games him against me i known him for years. you combine the worlds and there's common denominators he's one of most innovative offensive mind in recent times he likes to coach. >> he will join the team next week. tonight against the knicks nerlens norel joins sixers after is missing because of eye injury write. second water match young everyone wants to see. jaleel oak for against zingas. knicks not out franklin and si sixers watch-out. down as many as 30. sixers lose 107-97 they're 1-27. >>> if tampa bay and detroit scored 38 points on eeingings d what will arizona do to them. cardinals come to town with number one ranked offense in the nfl. by the way they have eagles numbered too. won four of the last four meeting largely in part to large receiver. larry fitzgerald 11 touchdowns and 7 career games against the eagles. >> we come down to you know can we day what we do on every play. everybody got 11 the got ball and i

people were willing to put skin and say, hey, mike brown was murdered here.s are not mattering. we want to make sure that people know about this. i think we are involved. very much so, they're right. i'm inspired by people taking action across the country. this may be a completely predictable response, but you have among conservatives rush limbaugh and bill o'reilly, pretty much everyone down the line of fox saying, actually black lives matter is a hate demonizingy are police. benevolente police association of new york appropriate in your language and saying blue lives matter. is this standard politics, the rightonary wing of the reacting to the radical wing of the left? or is there the danger this comes in escalating conflict? opal: right. i think when we say black lives matter -- in fact, i don't think, i know when we say black lives matter, we are not saying that any other life does not matter. that has never, ever been our message. our message has been a place of love, love for people, for our society, for our brothers and sisters. when we say black lives

so when you think about ferguson, mike brown was killed, there was unrest, and political fall-out.in a coma for a week. this happened 14 months ago. so everything that the mayor and every authority is saying is based on something that they had access to for 14 months. i mean, the most pointed part of that press conference was a question about a detective's report in march that said escalante, the interim superintendent signed off on, saying, there's no reason to find that the deployment of officer van dyke's weapon was against department policy based on five police reports that we now know were plainly not true. they have to come up with an explanation for that. so there's two questions here. there's going forward, how you reform a chicago police department that needs some reform. but the deeper political problem for rahm emanuel is, explaining every step of the way, how the laquan mcdonald investigation unfolded. >> you'll have much more tonight on your program on msnbc. thanks so much. >>> we have some breaking news in from the donald trump campaign. we'll give you those details

mike, one cup of brown sugar. we will add the cup ke ielbasa. half a cup of crushed pineapple. i like messy cooking. are you guys cooking a lot this holiday season? josh: christmas cookies this time of year in my kitchen. mike: holiday mix, the cereals and mixed nuts. josh: ean: i love it. the good thing about this recipe is it does not need to be exact. we like christmas cookies. i do think they do need to be exact. these not so precise. josh: we are a bunch of weather people. precise is not good for us. [laughter] some kielbasa. put this in the crockpot. this is really kind of just warming. this is great for holiday parties, super bowl parties -- go patriots -- football sundays, snowstorms -- though you will probably be here working, won' t you? mike: probably. jean: it is a crowd pleaser every time i serve it here ingredients your doctor say hi to geraldine and mike, and u2, linda. is the economy rigged? well, the 15 richest americans acquired more wealth in two years than the bottom 100 million people combined. i'm bernie sanders, and i approve this message. my plan -- make

eric garner in new york, or mike brown in missouri, where people felt there was no justice at hand, that nothing would be done, that nothing would be done in this case. and you saw peaceful marches that turned into clashes with police, or turned really into explosions of frustration and anger and rage at a system that's bigger than baltimore. and you also have to take into account what's happening in best baltimore. it's an incredibly impoverished area. it's a place where you see rows of abandoned houses, not one or two, but entire blocks. >> and great disparity between the haves and the have nots. >> the difference between the waterfront area and the way that it's policed and the resources put into it, versus the resources in west baltimore. so a lot went into what happened before. when i talk to people in west baltimore in the heart of where you would expect, if there were going to be expressions of outrage, people were not expecting even charges let alone a conviction. so i don't think you're going to see shock. >> joy reid, thanks so much for all of your insight. stand by. brian will

with josh mccown hurt browns head coach mike pettine has named manziel the starting qb for the remainderthe season the 2012 heisman trophy winner has thrown for 933 yards with 5 touchdowns and 2 interceptions this season redskins head coach jay gruden the brother of the announcer tonight jon gruden late in the game 9-9 tie/ former cal bear desean jackson tries to reverse the field and fumbles the punt return the ball is recovered by the cowboys punter chris jones just when it looks like the games over desean jackson catches a 28 yard td pass to tie the game seconds left / dan bailey makes the game winning 54 yard field goal final: 19-16 dallas the los angelas dodgers had agreed to a trade that would have netted them. all-star closer require all- star closer and the man who throws 100-plus miles -per-hour aroldis chapman now the trade has been delayed as major league baseball investigates an alleged domestic dispute in which chapman fired 8 gunshots in the garage of his florida home and was accused of choking his girlfriend if chapman is determined to have violated baseball's domestic abu

i don't think this is a mike brown/darren wilson situation.i think the question is, is the system prepared to deal with these sorts of issues or is there a more fundamental problem here. >> mark was talking about the stop. what happens afterward, the three days in the cell, the plastic bag? what is alleged as a suicide by authorities and the medical examiner? the assault of an officer there. let's put that all after because it begins with what we just saw there. where is that line about how you deal with this? should we deal differently with these stops or are you still of the school that once you start down the wrong road it gets worse? >> what happens, the stop was perfectly legal and she became uncooperative. at the time, listen, police officer can't tell you to put your cigarette out in a vehicle. you're smoking in your vehicle. that's a question of whether or not he should have told her that or not. the fact is when the officer told her to get out of the vehicle because she started coming an attitude or was getting combative to the office

mike brown of peach tree city police department says it's time in fact to do live and active shooter >> we do fire drills all the time. it's time to do some active shooter violence drill. no kid has been killed in a school in a fire in 50 years but they do fire drills every month. we need to make sure we do that in our businesses, our churches, our community. >> so here's the thing. when our kids ask us, you know, they see a terror attack and they go would that happen at my school, we say no, that's never going to happen at your school. at the same time if we teach them about active shooter drills where it's, like, if this happens or when it happens, do that, it might be troubling to kids but then again it could save their lives. >> key is language. for younger kids simplifying language. bad guy. they look like this. what do you do. i remember take fire drills for example. if in a fire, you stop, drop and roll. if it's practical and you're prepared and not scared and that's what you're teaching in mindset of kids. what steps do they need to know? >> i know my kids' school they do hav

reportedly talking to mike d'antonio about joining brett brown's coach.wn for running up tempo offense kick the knicks, lakers, mug nets and suns. the sixers start a three game road trip tomorrow in toronto. >> kids from west oak lane won their super bowl title. beating all time gators of maryland. way to go, guys. >> that's awesome. >> so cute. >> yeah, they so adorable. >> thank you ver who's worried about getting ttaken for a ride...r don't worry. the only rides you'll get taken on at carmax are the ones you take yourself. but just in case that absolutely 100 percent perfect choice... ...turns out to be... less than perfect... we give you five days to change your mind. sorry. >>> ♪ >>> all right. welcome back everyone. volunteers are honoring the nation's veterans this holiday season. today they placed wreaths on more than 240,000 headstones at arlington national cemetery in virginia. the tradition began more than 20 years ago and spread to veterans cemeteries all across the country. we'll have to wait apparently until next year to find out who will be

mike: i went with brown, the landscape color. emily: fall colors. erika: i would not mind a little -- emily: don' t say that. i said that last year and i regretted it. mike: let me show you some pictures of where it looks wintry. a little rendition of jingle bells perhaps. this is duluth, minnesota that it gets rather cold. moisture. by the way, what is left over of that is what' s coming in here. but we do not have the cold and snow. we have got a lot of clouds this morning. not a big issue. the main rate will be coming in afternoon and especially towards evening. will be coming in as we head towards us afternoon. not bad out there this morning. temperatures in the 40' s. by this afternoon, temperatures s. that system is dragging a lot of fog. going to stay cooler today. as that warm moist air comes flowing in over that cool pocket of air -- we get fog. even if you do not have heavy rain, we will have fog. the evening commute will be on the slow side. so here' s the way it looks. 11:00 this morning, spot shower here or there. towards 2:00, now you s

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. >> that was lieutenant mike madden speaking. governor brown just arrived in california. >> when it comes to people who engage in these vicious, brutal acts, we'll spare nothing in bringing them to justice and protecting the people along the way. >> police searched the suspect's home and found 12 pipe bombs, thousands of rounds of ammunition and proof he was planning an attack with his wife. >> the two suspects died in a shootout with police. relatives say they married two years ago. the fbi says she was here on a fiancee visa. they had a six month old baby whom they dropped off with a relative before the attack. >>> the community is focusing on healing and remembering the 14 people who died. >> reporter: this is a town ruled by fear. people were told to stay inside. there was gunfire from three locations. businesses are closed. tonight, quite the opposite. a couple thousand people showed up for a ceremony, you can see there are candles and teddy bears and are here to remember the lives of 14 people and others that were injured yesterday. they

despite signing head coach brett brown to an extension a week ago the sixers announced the hiring of mike associate head coach. now brown will have someone look over his shoulder like that and dantonio has 12 years of head coaching experience plus he's a long time relationship with new chairman of basketball operations jerry colangelo. brown says he was all for the move. >> those of you who know mike know that he's a good guy. you know, he's down to earth and he's a good guy so i think that -- that is going to be on me and i think that he will make me better. >> it's the most wonderful time -- i don't sing -- of the year. bowl season folks and for temple it's one they usually spend at home but this year the owls are in the thick of it and today they held their first florida practice. you see those palm trees there. in anticipation of tuesday's boca raton bowl the owls will be take on to lead do. despite we're having an awfully mild december matt rhule still happy to be spending time in the florida sunshine. >> we do have to get used to the heat and the temperature. my feet were freezing o

in cleveland, the browns are 2-10. coach mike pettine was asked if he's received an assurance he'll even finish the season. he said that he hasn't had that conversation with owner jimmy haslam and that could mean that a very different kind of conversation is coming soon for mike pettine in cleveland. >> all right, mike, thanks. yeah, speaking of the giants, they're 5-7. they could with a little luck and change a thing here or two benign-3. >>> meanwhile, steelers 45, colts 10. meanwhile al and cris will wrap things up after this. ok, we're here. here's dad. mom. the twins. aunt alice... you didn't tell me aunt alice was coming. of course. don't forget grandpa. can the test drive be over now? maybe just head back to don't you want to meet my family? yep, totally. your signature. the volkswagen sign then drive event. r zero due at signing, p zero down, zero deposit, r and zero first r months payment t on a new jetta p and othernselect models. phil! oh no... (under his breath) hey man! hey peter. (unenthusiastic) oh... ha ha ha! joa

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