chairman mike mccall says he has information that the infiltration attempts are already under way, and there have been 19 plots or attacks in the u.s. connected to isis. chief intelligence correspondent kathy harris has the chilling details. >> the coordinated terrorist attacks that killed 140 and injured more than 300 were lying in the house of operatives smug geld into europe as refugees. according to the security committee who gets regular qualified briefings. >> i can reveal today that the united states government has information tied to syria have already tried to gain access to our country through our -- mike mccall described the president's terrorism address to the nation as, quote, disappointing. >> there is no national strategy in combatting terrorism to fighters. >> an intelligence source confirmed to fox that isis is trying to infiltrate operatives into the refugee stream comes from an unclassified government report, though the white house played down the claims. >> i'm not able to confirm that peels of information. those individuals chose to enter the united states through

the house homeland security chair this week mike mccall on this program point the out to this audience that in fact isis has hatched a plan to infiltrate the population. >> it doesn't have to do with refugees. two of the cities with syria taken over by isis had two passport offices with boxes of blaine passports and they can put whatever pictures they want in there. they are coming from the southern most border. >> they told you they are seeing these syrian passports. >> the border patrol is picking them up. they are turning them over to isis and isis bringing them into the country. my problem is when you have a jokester like the white house spokesman this little jerky kid when he is on tv saying how they have all of this intelligence, he is telling a lie. it's a dam lie. they interviewed him over the other side and they let him into america with the visa with their passport. half of the passports we don't know how they are real. it could dam we will be isis. >> it is horrible. >> they are telling us isis has a plan they are getting in. they confirmed all of this there's no way to vet

we know mike mccall, chairman of the homeland security committee has isis has a channel to come in here. people are saying isis will infiltrate but there's no stop and congress is just funded the president's ability to do this. what is your reaction to the bill that was pushed forward today by the republicans in terms of what they want to do to fund all of these things? >> well, you know, the budget is very disappointing. you look at what's going on and you look at paul ryan and how easy it seems to be for the democrats to get whatever they want. there's never any threat, there's never any negotiation it seems. it just gets bigger and bigger. frankly, in terms of security we're getting all of the wrong things. you look at what's going on with our budget process, it is a disaster, it is a joke. it is a joke. if it weren't so hurtful, you'd all start laughing right now. but it is very with, very sad. do these people know anything about a budgetary process? i don't think so. then take a look at this woman anticipate facebook. this horrible person with a fiance passport and you look at her

. >>> mike mccall is here with us this hour and our conspon danres and analysts are standing by with go to pamela brown. pamela, what are your sources telling you about this earlier attack plot? >> officials we've been speaking with say farook's friend enrimaz planned an attack but shows how far back farook was radicalized. investigators now believe long before the attack in san bernardino, syed farook may have plotted with his friend and former neighbor marquez in 2012. they planned a target but got spooked. marquez told investigators he purchased two ar-15 assault weapons in 2011 and 2012 later used by farook in the san bernardino attacks. marquez has not been charged with any crime and maintains he knew nothing of last week's plans and checked himself into a mental health facility soon after. he says he and farook were on the path to radicalization as early as 2011. today it was said they became radicalized before they started dating. >> by the end of 2013 they were talking about jihad before they became engaged. >> reporter: farook traveled to saudi arabia in 2013 when he met his

very latest on the investigation, from the the head of the house home land security committee, mike mccallry plugged into law up force. and intel so he will give us latest information. the is what puzzling, people, clearly it was preland, these people had a arsenal, 6,000 round of ammunition, dozen pipe bombs, tactical gear, all of that stuff. but what is odd and what breaks the mold is usually terrorist get to the most public place and they declare themselves because part of it is terrorism, you want to terrify people. so to get to your own christmas party and shoot people up seems odd in the fact that declaring their intentions they seem to have hidden it. we fun out they have deleted their e-mails and destroyed some of their hard drives. it doesn't seem to fit the mold. we will get very latest on the investigation as i say on sunday from, we will have live report from the area and the latest from congressman mike mccall, chairman of the house home land security. >> you will also have ben carson on, am i right. >> it is so interesting because in the wake of this and in the wake of paris

mike mccall a short time ago said these words are not helping. i am going to paraphrase him. i don't believe the proposal is constitutional. it is singling out religion. but then he said he hasn't endorsed anyone but will support whoever the nominee is. who else in the party soaked up this much lime light? >> and andy and andrea, do you believe he is going to make a third party run? >> i don't think he is going to make a third party run. i don't think he needs to. one point quickly on the gop speaker paul ryan who i like is not taking comments about this issue on his website. the gop is cowering in fear over this issue. they need to step up because republicans are running scare and this is why the base of the party is not happy with the establishment. >> i have to say everyone is talking about trump running as the dependent if he is not the n nominee. >> back to the top story, brand new information on the radical islamic killers. farook may have been planning another attack. and we know now that the couple had been radicalized for years before they met online. how they went u

and i want to play this cut from chair mike mccall. listen to what he says that isis has this plan to infiltrate this population. >> isis has said in their own words, they want to exploit the refugee process. to infiltrate the west and they did exactly that to attack paris. i can reveal today that the united states government has information to indicate that individuals tied to terrorist groups in syria have already attempted to gain access to our can country through the u.s. refugee program. >> that means americans will die. that's how i interpret that. >> absolutely. >> again, i.c.e. agent called me, didn't want their name to be known, if they say i'm afraid to go back to my country, that is the signal, that's the magic word. i'm afraid to go back to my country, well, welcome to america, but who are you? he said it a little bit over the top, every muslim. i don't agree with that. what we should do is put a pause until we know who the hell is coming into this country. this is getting real scary and i don't want to frighten people, but

. >> we also heard today from house homeland security chair of the committee, mike mccall. he put a lot of blame for isis directly on president obama. and former secretary of state hillary clinton. and he added this about kind of the terminology in acknowledging where we are with isis. >> i think they're at war with us. i don't think this administration is at war with them. i think that's the inherent problem. they don't, they don't define the enemy. they don't, they don't see the threat the way i do. the way most americans do. and they, they are not at war with isis. and we need to be. >> tucker how important is the terminology? and having an overall effective strategy? >> it's vital. as was pointed out over the course of five novels, if you don't have the words to describe something, you can't conceive of it. words make thought possible. if you're using the wrong ones, you're likely to reach the wrong conclusions. i think the consensus on foreign policy is changing. the problem with this administration, their policies abetted chaos in the region and europe is being destro

and i want to play this cut from chair mike mccall. listen to what he says that isis has this plan to infiltrate this population. >> isis has said in their own words, they want to exploit the refugee process. to infiltrate the west and they did exactly that to attack paris. i can reveal today that the united states government has information to indicate that individuals tied to terrorist groups in syria have tamted to ga attempted to gain access through the u.s. refugee program. >> that means americans will die. that's how i interpret that. >> absolutely. >> again, i.c.e. agent called me, didn't want their name to be known, if they say i'm afraid to go back to my country, that is the signal, that's the magic word. i'm afraid to go back to my country, wel, welcome to america, but who are you? he said it a little bit over the top, every muslim. i don't agree with that. what we should do is put a pause until we know who the hell is coming into this country. this is getting real scary and i don't want to frighten people, but it's serious,

just hours ago, mike mccall, chairman of the house homeland security committee revealing that the directorf national intelligence, james clapper, is saying that terrorists are specifically looking for opportunities to hide in the crowds trying to escape from syria. >> the dni sent me a letter the other day saying that there are individuals tied to terrorism in syria who have actively tried to use the refugee program to get in the united states. >> a far cry from the way our president characterized the refugee situation just a couple of weeks ago. >> but apparently, they're scared of widows and orphans coming into the united states of america as part of our tradition of compassion. >> joining me now, republican presidential candidate senator marco rubio. senator, thank you for being here. so it is not just widows and orphans trying to get into the country it turns out. >>. >> well that statement is baffling to me. we see the same intelligence the president does. for him to say something like that runs counter to information we know that he has. first of all, there is evidence that they've t

mike mccall made sensible propos proposals.ue we know once again that the government has been inept. but despite that meta data, before the patriot act changed these are two individuals in san bernardino radicalized years ago, engaged in a pattern of conversation and somehow we missed them. we need to be talking about why there is government ineptitude? >> you're acknowledging with our intelligence officials are acknowledging should we put a hold, a stop until they get right? >> i don't think that is the right answer. here is what i would also say, barack obama tries to distract us from his lack of a plan to defeat isis by talking about gun control. donald trump is attempting and succeeding in distracting us from the reality that he has no plan and no experience to defeat isis by talking about a ban on all muslims which will never happen. we need to be talking about what is the plan to defeat isis? i have one here at home and abroad. that is when we ought owe to be talking about. >> carly fiorina, nice to see you. thank you for

the house homeland security chair representative mike mccall actually said the white house not releasing information to the public that it would indicate, this information, that isis plans and there are plans and we know it for isis to infiltrate the refugee population like they did in paris and the female shooter in this case was able to get in through a fiance visa and she gave the wrong address and we didn't even catch it. why should we trust the president in taking in refugees if we know isis is going to infiltrate that population? >> right. who is more insane here? the president who says everyone will be rigorously vetted. i know i wasn't rigorously vetted any more than the crazy mass murdering miss if from mac ka stan was rigorously vetted. that's nonsense. that doesn't happen. who is more insane, the makes promises that everybody knows is rubbish or trump who says that the issue here is this psychosis incubates within islam and that's something worth being able to discuss honestly without the president and his attorney general and the next president in waiting calling us all bigot

. >> mike mccall right there. meanwhile the president's national security team convened in the situation room yesterday, breaking down the latest intelligence on the attack. and while details are still coming in, even at this hour the white house in a statement said that they quote as of yet uncovered no indication the killers were part of an organized group or formed part of a broader terrorist cell." just a couple more notes for your consideration tonight, arcel. keep in mind the speech should be somewhat lengthy. it could last around 20 minutes or so. although to be fair the white house is still crafting and refining the speech even at this hour. so even they don't know how long or what exactly will be in the speech. we also expect the president, a arcel to speak to the heart of the american people about the american culture not giving into the hateful ideology that so many people around the world are hoping we will give into in the wake of this devastating attack. of course we'll look forward to the speech ton

director of intelligence james clapper, the assistant fbi director, state department spokesman mike mccallthis program last night, the chairman of the homeland security committee, they're all saying that isis has a plan to infiltrate the refugee population from syria like they did in pardz to bring harm to americans. now, you have donald trump as saying temporary hold until we can vet these people. rand paul is saying a temporary ban in 34 countries until we can vet these people. where are you on this issue? >> that's why i said we should not admit one syrian refugee. i took a lot of abuse from the u.n. crowd about it. no, not women, not children, nobody. as we saw in san bernardino, women are just as capable of being radicalized and participating in the murder. >> highlights from my interviews with carly fiorina and senator rand paul. that and more on this special edition of "hannity." huh. introducing centrum vitamints. a brand new multivitamin you enjoy like a mint. with a full spectrum of essential nutrients... surprisingly smooth, refreshingly cool. i see you found the vitamints. new

deirdre: kyle, homeland security chairman mike mccall revealed that documents, you just mentioned thisied to enter our country as refugees. >> tied to terrorist groups in syria have already attempted to gain access to our country through the u.s. refugee program. deirdre: so does this surprise you that we haven't heard more about this? >> it's no surprise that they're trying, it's a little bit surprising we haven't heard more about this. there was a desire i think by the administration to paint the refugee resettlement process as beyond approach, vetting was going to be 100%. couldn't possibly go wrong, anyone that was trying to seriously look at vetting for syrian or other refugees was playing into islamic state hand and now what we're really learning is that islamic state very much wishes for the refugee flow in order to move operatives into the united states and other countries. deirdre: kyle, when you talk about playing into the hands of the terrorists, it seems like they have one goal; right? which is to destroy. so anything that goes against that, is not in their hands. am i miss

. >> we also heard today from house homeland security chair of the committee, mike mccall.t of blame for isis directly on president obama. and former secretary of state hillary clinton. and he added this about kind of the terminology in acknowledging where we are with isis. >> i think they're at war with us. i don't think this administration is at war with them. i think that's the inherent problem. they don't, they don't define the enemy. they don't, they don't see the threat the way i do. the way most americans do. and they, they are not at war with isis. and we need to be. >> tucker how important is the terminology? and having an overall effective strategy? >> it's vital. as was pointed out over the course of five novels, if you don't have the words to describe something, you can't conceive of it. words make thought possible. if you're using the wrong ones, you're likely to reach the wrong conclusions. i think the consensus on foreign policy is changing. the problem with this administration, their policies abetted chaos in the region and europe is being destroyed by it. w

we talked with mike mccall, chairman of the homeland security committee.he's the sponsor of that bill. as of last evening when we talked to him, he said that's to still a part of the package. but president obama has said heo will veto it. so that's a big sticking point. we don't know what's going to happen there, will the democrata tweak that language, will they cut it out, or are they just going to swallow it. we're not sure what's going on there. there's a host of other things that could be in there. epa water rules, epa smog rulesr there are republican efforts toa undo parts of the dodd-frank reform law.at giv all sorts of things democrats ie said they won't accept.for but again, they haven't named them specifically. that gives them room to say, wee fought forve them, they're not e bad as we thought originally, " but the public will never know because we never saw the original version. >> there's a story in the "times" that pet projects are making an effort to get into the final version of that spending plan. >> oh, sure.ugh any time you have a trillion

, the congressman where ales on lived, who has 100 legislative bills at his desk, when you have mike mccallosed to be looking after us as the chairman of the house committee to -- the homeland house -- the homeland security committee, and you look at what they do and they're obstructionists, i've called them cow warards. i say they're acting in a treasonist fashion. >> treasonist fashion? >> yes. when you have murder going on the way you have it. when you have the ability to affect gun legislation, sensible gun legislation, at least hearing, it you know, holding hearings. and when the gun lobby is giving these guys money to preempt that, yeah, i think you're aiding and abetting terrorists, which in my mind is treasonist. >> andy parker, thanks for joining me this morning. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" after a break. we give you relief from your cold & flu. you give them a case of the giggles. tylenol® cold helps relieve your worst cold & flu symptoms... you can give them everything you've got. tylenol® and then santa's workers zapped it right to our house. and that's how they got it here.

our concerns were only exacerbated by the remarks of our colleague, homeland security chairman mike mccall, the refugee program that is currently occurring. aside from security vetting concerns, that's always a problem in immigration benefits processing. i know current and former directors of uscis have come before the committee and said how fraud detection is a number-one priority but that's difficult to reconcile when we consistently hear from sources within uscis that leadership will not pursue anti-fraud technology, the rubber stamping of benefits applications is encouraged and in some instances force and that uscis's anti-fraud unit, the fraud detection and national security directorate is routinely sidelined and underutilized. my constituents are proud that the united states has the most generous immigration policy in the world and they are proud that the united states is a beacon of hope for foreign nationals seeking a better life but they have a right to know that the immigration programs are being run in a manner that does not put them in danger and right now they don't feel that