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perry, scott walker the others. i love the irony to use the free time he got because of donald trump so dom nated by outsiders. >> but leadership experience. look at george pataki. it used to be you campaigned on your record, now campaigning on your experience and record -- back seat. you know, trump did in this impromptu news conference yesterday, he gave an idea on the commercials. he did say they will focus on issues like trade and security and among other things. do you think these ads will help elevate him even more? because, hey, maybe we'll hear some issues? >> they probably will. you know, by the way, trade is a fascinating issue. what he's talking about when he's railing on mexico is really like rolling back nafta, which i realize is in the weeds issue, it's very, very different from where the modern republican party is on trade, it's a very pro trade party. yes, trump is doing well on those issues. he's sort of turning, you know, prois turning it on his head. this is a way to get away from the issues that got in traction early on as he was taking these personal shots. we were wondering, is this the one that