they called him the pantera rosa, you know, the pink panther, because he was a funny, sort of... you know, like that, very military, his way. and for some reason or other, he invited me, with just three other journalists, to talk to him. like we're talking now, in an annex, not in a big office or anything like that. we talked, it was very pleasant, and he wore a civilian suit, and he was very pleasant, very nice. and i sat there, and these other people asked questions, and i thought, "i just can't go on anymore." i said, "but president videla, people are still disappearing!" with that, he changed. he was furious. and then, unfortunately, a most... you know, an admired journalist broke in and said, "well, you have to realize, like julius caesar, there are times when there are things that you have to do that you have to do and you can't talk about them." so from that moment on, i realized that this was... it was a policy of disappearing. so what we were trying to do was to break the silence about it, because people denied it. i had people who came down from the united states, people wh