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i am in shock myself. >> reporter: a sentiment echoed by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid to tell them that you just survived the attack? many people that didn't that we love. >> reporter: baccari says the multiple bullet fragments will remain in his body. now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in the case of this happening. but that's not everybody else's belief. i couldn't have defended anybody from the position i was in, even if i was armed. but at least if they tried to come in and get us in that rest room, i'd have some way of maybe protecting the rest of us. >> reporter: we could not find anything as far as a criminal background on farook. but there are some court documents from a 2008 divorce between he's parents that suggest that he had a turbulent childhood. his mother filed a temporary restraining order. she described her husband, farook's father as being violent, mentally ill at times, often not on his meds, and frequently saying that he would commit suicide. she also described him as be
i am in shock myself. >> reporter: a sentiment echoed by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid to tell them that you just survived the attack? many people that didn't that we love. >> reporter: baccari says the multiple bullet fragments will remain in his body. now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in the case of this happening. but that's not everybody else's belief. i couldn't have...
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patrick baccari was at the holiday party. >> i could see the bullet holes higher on the wall. i told everybody get on the floor. >> reporter: syed farook returning to the party he just left with his wife fully armed with guns legally obtained. >> i don't know there was one any one person they ultimately targeted. they killed 14 people there. >> reporter: fear gripped the entire complex. >> i'll take a bullet before you do, that's for damn sure. >> reporter: police ordering everyone to keep their hands up and their heads down. >> try to relax. >> reporter: the attack leaving 14 dead and 21 wounded, looked like a war zone. 2:56 p.m. two miles away, police following a tip spot the suspect's vehicle. the chase began. four minutes later, a gun battle on the street. the shooters killed, two police officers injured, 456 rounds exchanged. the couple had tactical gear, two assault rifles, two hand guns, 2,000 rounds of ammunition found inside their rented car. >> clearly, they were equipped and could have continued to do another attack. >> reporter: now 5:05 p.m., police use a batterin
patrick baccari was at the holiday party. >> i could see the bullet holes higher on the wall. i told everybody get on the floor. >> reporter: syed farook returning to the party he just left with his wife fully armed with guns legally obtained. >> i don't know there was one any one person they ultimately targeted. they killed 14 people there. >> reporter: fear gripped the entire complex. >> i'll take a bullet before you do, that's for damn sure. >> reporter:...
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patrick baccari is one of the lucky survivors of the inland regional center here p. he remembers seeing syed farook at the christmas parey and a trip to the bathroom that may have saved his life. the horror unfolding on the other side of the door. >> someone asked, where is syed, i didn't realize he wasn't there i hear pummelling and we stayed in the restroom. i laid on the floor and put my feet against the door and had my other gentleman to the side me do the same. >> reporter: did the gentleman come into the restroom? >> he wasn't going to be ablesto get in. i guess if he did, it would have been over our dead bodies. when the s.w.a.t. team came, we tried to run as fast as we could away from the building and iha a paramedic, and saw my friend and >>er aid. we could see the bullets lodged under the skin on her wrist and that's not where the in entries were. >> and what is the religious background of the male suspect? i had an opportunity to speak with the director of the islamic center of riverside and that' where the shooter and his wife at h one time. i asked what
patrick baccari is one of the lucky survivors of the inland regional center here p. he remembers seeing syed farook at the christmas parey and a trip to the bathroom that may have saved his life. the horror unfolding on the other side of the door. >> someone asked, where is syed, i didn't realize he wasn't there i hear pummelling and we stayed in the restroom. i laid on the floor and put my feet against the door and had my other gentleman to the side me do the same. >> reporter: did...
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(sot / patrick baccari / rvivor :xx - :xx) "i laid on my floor and put my feet against the door and i had community here wants to know why - and how a quiet,hard-working man who recently became a father - could be capable of such hate. in san bernardino - jinah kim -- kwwl news. president obama ordering for flags to be flown at half staff in the nation's capitol following yesterday's tragedy. he also spoke on guncontrol today -- and what needs to be done to "we're going to have to search would make it harder, not impossible, harder for individuals to get access to weapons." in the shooting says he knew one of the alleged shooters personally. she believes her husband died trying to protect others... jennifer thalasinos / victim' wife "he knew syed, he'd worked with him, and he never had anything bad to say about him. our faith being messianic --- that's kind of... not instantly get along, but my husband never had aathing bad tt say about him.. jennifer's husband, nicholas, was 52-years-old. some warmer ttmps ahead ---let's go to storm track seven meteorologist kyle kiel now for who's t
(sot / patrick baccari / rvivor :xx - :xx) "i laid on my floor and put my feet against the door and i had community here wants to know why - and how a quiet,hard-working man who recently became a father - could be capable of such hate. in san bernardino - jinah kim -- kwwl news. president obama ordering for flags to be flown at half staff in the nation's capitol following yesterday's tragedy. he also spoke on guncontrol today -- and what needs to be done to "we're going to have to...
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patrick baccari was sitting at the same table as farook but in the men's restroom when the shots rang out. i took cover when a blast after shrapnel actually shot through the paper towel dispenser and actually hit him in the face. >> i announced to the other people in the restroom, we're under attack. get on the floor. and so the one that was beside me, i told him to get down on the floor and we put our feet against the door to inhibit anybody from entering the restroom. >> police led them to safety. baccari who is also a medic stuck around to help those who were the most seriously wounded. >>> we're starting to see that gun sales soar after mass shootings, including the one in san bernardino. the fbi set a one-day record for background checks last friday. this is after the colorado springs attack. even though it appears unlikely congress will take any action on gun control, many americans aren't taking any chances. >> it jumps up some for two reasons. one, you have the politicians start talking about gun control immediately during or you know, when that happens. and also the people be
patrick baccari was sitting at the same table as farook but in the men's restroom when the shots rang out. i took cover when a blast after shrapnel actually shot through the paper towel dispenser and actually hit him in the face. >> i announced to the other people in the restroom, we're under attack. get on the floor. and so the one that was beside me, i told him to get down on the floor and we put our feet against the door to inhibit anybody from entering the restroom. >> police...
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. >> yeah, we're talking about patrick baccari.e had been sitting at the same table as farook but noticed he wasn't there when they took the annual holiday photo. baccari was in the men's restroom as the shots rang out. he took cover as blast of shrapnel shot through the paper towel holder and hit him in the face. >> so i announced to the other people in the restroom. we're under attack. get on the floor. the one beside me, i told him to get down on the floor. we put our feet against the door to inhibit anybody from entering the restroom. >> baccari and farook were both environmental inspectors for the county health department. he said he considered him a friend. >>> and that shooting rampage hit home for an nfl player. who grew up in san bernardino. >> new york giants safety nat berhe tweeted, i just got word that one of my cousins was among the 14 killed yesterday. i'm so sick right now. he identified his cousin as isaac amanios, the oldest of the victims at 60. he was a supervisor at the county health department. >> so many peop
. >> yeah, we're talking about patrick baccari.e had been sitting at the same table as farook but noticed he wasn't there when they took the annual holiday photo. baccari was in the men's restroom as the shots rang out. he took cover as blast of shrapnel shot through the paper towel holder and hit him in the face. >> so i announced to the other people in the restroom. we're under attack. get on the floor. the one beside me, i told him to get down on the floor. we put our feet...
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patrick baccari thought he was a friend. he was in the room yesterday for that holiday work event. farook was sitting at the same table, in fact. and then he noticed farook wasn't there for the annual christmas photo. he didn't think anything of it. but a short time later, he was in the restroom, drying his hands when bullets came bursting through the paper towel dispenser. >> they announced, we're going to take a 15-minute break. so, during that break, i excused myself and got to the restroom and when i finished up in the restroom, i'm ready to leave and there's, like, a bomb went off. and i turned back and look at the mirror, i can see that i'm bloody here, here and here. and i don't know what it is. >> you were at the paper towel dispenser? >> i was in the restroom, just pulled paper towels, as i'm pulling the towels, it sounds like an explosion went off. >> comes right through the paper towel dispenser? >> i get hit with a blast. i don't know what it is. i thought the paper towel dispenser was booby trapped. i announced to the other people in the restroom, we're under attack. s
patrick baccari thought he was a friend. he was in the room yesterday for that holiday work event. farook was sitting at the same table, in fact. and then he noticed farook wasn't there for the annual christmas photo. he didn't think anything of it. but a short time later, he was in the restroom, drying his hands when bullets came bursting through the paper towel dispenser. >> they announced, we're going to take a 15-minute break. so, during that break, i excused myself and got to the...
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i'm in shock myself. >> a sentiment echos by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid to tell them you just survived an attack. there's many people that didn't that we love. >> baccari says the multiple bullet fragn'ts in his body will stay, too risky to remove. what also remains, confusion that a man he so closely knew did this. now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in the case of this happening. but that's not everybody else who believed. i couldn't defend anybody from the position i was in even if i was armed. but at least if they tried to come in and get us in that restroom, i would have had some way of maybe protecting the rest of us. >> we could not find anything as far as a criminal background on farook, but there are some court documents of a 2008 divorce between his parents that suggest that he had a turbulent childhood. his mother filed a temporary restraining order in court documents. she described her husband, farook's father as being violent, mentally ill at times, often not on his meds and f
i'm in shock myself. >> a sentiment echos by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid to tell them you just survived an attack. there's many people that didn't that we love. >> baccari says the multiple bullet fragn'ts in his body will stay, too risky to remove. what also remains, confusion that a man he so closely knew did this. now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in the case of this...
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among them a coworker who shared a cubicle with him for years. >> we're talking about patrick baccari who had been sitting at the same table as farook but noticed he wasn't there when they took the annual holiday photo. baccari was in the restroom when the rampage began sending bullet fragments through the paper towel dispenser. >> so we're hearing all this gunfire take place. we're not feeling anything. i'm trying to contact my wife and tell her i love her and that i'm okay. and so the gentleman beside me, i asked him to call the police and he did. within minutes of us being there i guess it was four or five minutes, they came and they attempted to open the restroom door. >> baccari and farook were both environmental inspectors for the county health department. he said he considered him a friend. >>> intelligence agents say gunman syed farook had been in contact with known islamic extremists apparently through social media. >> that's one lead investigators are following up on as they go deeper into farook's and his wife's past. we get more now from abc's matt gutman. >> the horror qu
among them a coworker who shared a cubicle with him for years. >> we're talking about patrick baccari who had been sitting at the same table as farook but noticed he wasn't there when they took the annual holiday photo. baccari was in the restroom when the rampage began sending bullet fragments through the paper towel dispenser. >> so we're hearing all this gunfire take place. we're not feeling anything. i'm trying to contact my wife and tell her i love her and that i'm okay. and so...
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patrick baccari went to work every day in the same cubicle where syed farook worked. that's tonight's "last word." >> lone wolves, this is hardball. good evening. i am chris matthews in washington. it could be a case of lone wolf radicalized islamist terrorism. it could have been worse. the pair planted bombs to create a greater scene of carnage. it started a vicious attack on president obama by donald trump. he said the president was hiding something about himself. something dark in his past and identity that makes him defensive about suspected terrorism that keeps him from condemning it for what it is. authorities have yet to nail down the motive of the san bernardino massacre. syed rizwan farook and his wife tashfeen malik were likely radicalized and in touch with people in the los angeles area expressing jihadist views and he was linked to persons of interests to american authorities. authorities also try to determine who may have helped supply them with the stockpiles of ammunition, bombs and weapons that authorities recovered. according to the police the attacke
patrick baccari went to work every day in the same cubicle where syed farook worked. that's tonight's "last word." >> lone wolves, this is hardball. good evening. i am chris matthews in washington. it could be a case of lone wolf radicalized islamist terrorism. it could have been worse. the pair planted bombs to create a greater scene of carnage. it started a vicious attack on president obama by donald trump. he said the president was hiding something about himself. something...
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patrick baccari, and he says farook traveled to saudi arabia where he met his -- where he got his wife -- met his wife, who he had met online before traveling to saudi arabia. and as patrick puts it, it seemed like he was living the american dream. >> you'll recall 9/11 hijackers, many of them lived under the surface and there was no indication people who knew them that they were going to carry out such a brutal, horrific attack. >> we'll be back with more live coverage of the situation in san bernardino thirsty? they said it would make me cool. they don't sound cool to me. guess not. you got to stick up for yourself, like with the name your price tool. people tell us their budget, not the other way around. aren't you lactose intolerant? this isn't lactose. it's milk. ♪ . >>> nbc's blake mccoy joins us live near that shooting scene in san bernardino. blake, you were at the press conference chief jarrod burguan was at. did anybody get any questions in there, as they were walking away? >> reporter: we had a lot of new information. one, the relationship between the two killed in the car,
patrick baccari, and he says farook traveled to saudi arabia where he met his -- where he got his wife -- met his wife, who he had met online before traveling to saudi arabia. and as patrick puts it, it seemed like he was living the american dream. >> you'll recall 9/11 hijackers, many of them lived under the surface and there was no indication people who knew them that they were going to carry out such a brutal, horrific attack. >> we'll be back with more live coverage of the...
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. >> a sentiment echoed by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid to tell them yout survived an attack. there are many people that didn't that we love. >> baccari says the multiple bullet fragments in his body will stay, too risky to remove. what also remains, confusion. the man he so closely knew did this. now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in the case of this happening. but that's not everybody else's belief. i couldn't defend anybody from the position i was in, even if i was armed. but at least if they tried to come in and get us in that restroom, i would have had some way of maybe protecting the rest of us. >> we could not find a criminal background on farook, but there were court 35er7s from a divorce of his parents in 2008 that described her husband, farook's father being violent, mentally ill at times, often not on his meds and frequently saying that he would commit suicide. she also described him as being violent, throwing once a tv on her. >> colonel, let's start some of the tactics. some of t
. >> a sentiment echoed by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid to tell them yout survived an attack. there are many people that didn't that we love. >> baccari says the multiple bullet fragments in his body will stay, too risky to remove. what also remains, confusion. the man he so closely knew did this. now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in the case of this happening. but that's not...
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. >> for the last few years, patrick baccari went to work every day in the same cubicle where syed farookd. that's tonight's "last word." >> lone wolves, this is hardball. good evening. i am chris matthews in washington. it could be a case of lone wolf radicalized islamist terrorism. it could have been worse. the pair planted bombs to create a greater scene of carnage. it started a vicious attack on president obama by donald trump. he said the president was hiding something about himself. something dark in his past and identity that makes him defensive about suspected terrorism that keeps him from condemning it for what it is.
. >> for the last few years, patrick baccari went to work every day in the same cubicle where syed farookd. that's tonight's "last word." >> lone wolves, this is hardball. good evening. i am chris matthews in washington. it could be a case of lone wolf radicalized islamist terrorism. it could have been worse. the pair planted bombs to create a greater scene of carnage. it started a vicious attack on president obama by donald trump. he said the president was hiding...
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. >> reporter: a sentiment echoed by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid who say they just survived the attack. there's many people that didn't. >> reporter: baccari says the multiple bullet fragments in his body will stay, too risky to remove. what also remains, confusion, the man he so closely knew did this, now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in case of this happening but that's not everybody else's belief. i couldn't have defended anybody from the position i was in, even if i was armed. but at least if they tried to come in and get us in that restroom, i would have had some way of protecting the rest of us. >> reporter: now, if there's any clue to violence in farook's past, in his parents' divorce records filed in 2008, his mother says her ex-husband was extremely violent, abusive, that he pushed her against the car and it's something that the children witnessed, he would threaten suicide and even threw a television on her. she even filed a temporary restraining order, violence that seemed to
. >> reporter: a sentiment echoed by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid who say they just survived the attack. there's many people that didn't. >> reporter: baccari says the multiple bullet fragments in his body will stay, too risky to remove. what also remains, confusion, the man he so closely knew did this, now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in case of this happening but that's...
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. >> for the last few years, patrick baccari went to work every day in the same cubicle where syed farook worked. that's tonight's "last word." chris hayes is up next. >> good evening. the county coroner has now identified each of the 14 victims. michael wetzel, 57, nicholas thalasinos, 52. el daniel kauf mon, 42. shannon johnson, 45, bennetta bet-badal, 46 robert adams 40. tin nguyen 31. and juan espinoza 50. at this hour we're awaiting a press conference with updates from law enforcement. we'll of course bring it to you as it happens. we're also learning much more today about the husband and wife duo who carried out yesterday's deadly rampage, though we still don't have an answer to the key question that has been bedeviling everyone, why did they do it. syed farook, 28, and tashfeen malik, 27, are now thought to have been the only people who opened fire on the inland regional center yesterday morning, killing 14 people and ultimately wounding 21. both attackers were killed hours later in a dramatic public shootout with police. combing through the scene of the shooting in a home connecte
. >> for the last few years, patrick baccari went to work every day in the same cubicle where syed farook worked. that's tonight's "last word." chris hayes is up next. >> good evening. the county coroner has now identified each of the 14 victims. michael wetzel, 57, nicholas thalasinos, 52. el daniel kauf mon, 42. shannon johnson, 45, bennetta bet-badal, 46 robert adams 40. tin nguyen 31. and juan espinoza 50. at this hour we're awaiting a press conference with updates...
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. >> reporter: a sentiment echoed by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid to tellhat you just survived the attack? many people that didn't that we love. >> reporter: baccari says the multiple bullet fragments will stay, too risky to remove. what also remains confusion. a man he so closely knew did this, now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in the case of this happening. but that's not everybody else's belief. i couldn't have defended anybody from the position i was in, even if i was armed. but at least if they tried to come in and get us in that rest room, i'd have some way of maybe protecting the rest of us. >> our kyung lah with that story for us there. and we're hearing some chilling details from one of the first responders of the massacre. lieutenant mike madden of the san bernardino police department was on his way to lunch when he heard the call of an active shooting. listen as he describes what he experienced. >> as we entered into the conference room, the situation was surreal. it's something we
. >> reporter: a sentiment echoed by patrick baccari. >> who wants to call their 16-year-old kid to tellhat you just survived the attack? many people that didn't that we love. >> reporter: baccari says the multiple bullet fragments will stay, too risky to remove. what also remains confusion. a man he so closely knew did this, now turning to anger and fear. >> i believe every citizen here should be armed to defend themselves in the case of this happening. but that's not...
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. >> reporter: spoke with patrick baccari, a co-worker, who shared a cubicle withyed farook for years. >> you have the sam title? >> silar. scussed similar things. i thought i made a connection with him talkin about preparing cars and things like that. asked him some of his experiences, things like that. >> reporter: that was how you got him to open up? talking about cars >> i would greet him and i wouldn't get anything back. it's like y're trying to initiate conversation. and it just doesn't perpetuate or get anywhere. >> reporter: baccari's life was spared becausee wept to the restroom just as the killers were aboutonter the room. h shots camame tough the wall. >> i get hit with a blast. i don't know what it is. i thought the paper towel >> reporter: it blows up in your face. you look in the mirror. >> i see i'm bleeding. >> reporter: he tries to send text to his wife. >> we're hearing the gunfire take place. i'm trying to contact my wife and tell her i love her and that i'm okay. >> reporter: he could only type out two words. >> it said gunman attacked. i didn't -- connect it. i di
. >> reporter: spoke with patrick baccari, a co-worker, who shared a cubicle withyed farook for years. >> you have the sam title? >> silar. scussed similar things. i thought i made a connection with him talkin about preparing cars and things like that. asked him some of his experiences, things like that. >> reporter: that was how you got him to open up? talking about cars >> i would greet him and i wouldn't get anything back. it's like y're trying to initiate...
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food inspector patrick baccari had gone to the men's room just minutes before that massacre began. he said he was reachin for a paper towel when a puff of dry wall hit his face. then he heard an explosion from the other side of that wall. he and another man who were inside that bathroom held the door closed with their feet. >> i look back at the mirror, see i'm bloodied on my face. he wasn't going to be able to get in. i guess if he did, it would have en over our dead bodies. >> baccari showed a cubicle with the alleged gunman. they were also seated at the same table during that party. >>> this morning, we're learning ch more about the victims of ones who knew them best. "today in new york's" katherine creag is i the newsroom with thaise. kat? >> darlene, the people killed made a difference in many lives, their friends and family have said. nearly all of them worked foo the county. the worked with mentally and physically challenged people. they were health workers who made sure restaurants followed the rules, environmental workers who made sure people had safe drinking water. in fa
food inspector patrick baccari had gone to the men's room just minutes before that massacre began. he said he was reachin for a paper towel when a puff of dry wall hit his face. then he heard an explosion from the other side of that wall. he and another man who were inside that bathroom held the door closed with their feet. >> i look back at the mirror, see i'm bloodied on my face. he wasn't going to be able to get in. i guess if he did, it would have en over our dead bodies. >>...