probably hurts pugin. -- putin. host: what you think of the beloved former publisher and your former boss who has passed away? guest: she -- i said this before, she would've called pat wouldnan up and tried -- have had to get them back in the race. [laughter] it is an interesting field and has some depth to it, but all the oxygen and a lot of the media coverage is being sucked up by donald trump, which is too bad, but i can see why mrs. clinton was hammering home on him last night. not only is he good to divide republicans and divide the christian and muslim communities, but she sees him as a tyrant for the general election. host: joe mcquaid, president and publisher of the "union leader," thank you very much for your time. merry christmas. guest: merry christmas to you, steve. host: first up is danny, woodbridge, virginia. the democrats line. caller: good morning. i am leaning towards bernie sanders. everything -- the reason being that hillary, i don't like her. mean, -- [indiscernible] libya, and we did that to ir