. >> ted kennedy and stephen hayes and cat stevens, this is not a list that you can be certain of. first impulse of hillary clinton and barack obama is to have gun control. the first impulse in my mind, let's have a strategy to take it deal with it here. >> harry reid pointed out this week, they pledge allegiance to isis in america, is that okay for you? >> i don't think it's appropriate. if we're tracking them, if someone's in our country and tracking them, they shouldn't be able to get guns, for sure. the no-fly list is a broader list. >> but, so you're saying, if the list were more refined then you would be -- >> yeah, if you're tracking someone who you believe may be a terrorist, of course they shouldn't get guns. the fbi has tt capability right now. >> but right now, according to the law, someone could pledge allegiance to isis wouldn't be disqualifying. >> it should be. they have the ability to look and see and notify when someone >> you heard secretary clinton on the issue, she said it made her laugh criticizing her, your proposals would increase the debt much more. >> that'