was tashfin malik subject to that process as a visa applicant?, non- immigrant visas such as those that under the visa waiver program, are they less stringent >> if you are applying for a non- immigrant visa, we do not require you to submit proof that you have a clean criminal record in every country where you lived. >> so your answer would be yes. >> yes. so under the program they are less stringent than the k-1 visa? >> you are not required to prove it. >> we have got 1.6 million overstay his, 400,000 of which are from the visa waiver program which is the less stringent program, correct? >> isn't less stringent in the security check that are done than the other -- >> but the background is. >> of the interagency name check is the same for all of them but if you've are traveling as a non- immigrant you are normally not required to provide a police certificate for example to undergo a health exam than if you were coming in as an immigrant. >> i would say that is less stringent would you not agree? >> the paperwork if you are coming in as an immigr

malik, and one of the thing he is says would have tipped him tashfin malik is is a boy's name and he's a bit of a hero in radical islamic circles. if you know that, which i didn't, and he does, then you would pull that person aside for adecisional screening. you would pull that application, say, why do you have a boy's name? you weren't given that. his example is, it would be like somebody from america trying to go into another country with the name -- a woman, with the name george washington. really? that's your real name? it would raise flags and questions, cause you to do further checking. but people at homeland security have seen that if you become a whistle blower and you blow the whistle on the obama administration, homeland security, deleting documents, refusing to investigate radical islam, then they'll convene a grand jury to make your life a iving hell until you retire. and that's only if they can't find some little something to indict you of. after they've looked everywhere through everything. people in homeland security have seen what happens to people that are honest, that