patty shimek is a founder of a nonprofit grassroots organization called partners in prevention, and kathy baxter, who led the san francisco child abuse prevention council for decades, and she has been my mentor on child-abuse issues for three decades. i can't believe it's been that long. wow. so now you have a whole new venture. this is just such a nice supplement to the work that katie albright is doing. >> she's been my mentor, too. >> all right, so, patty, let me start with you. you founded this. kathy, you're the vice president. so what is partners in prevention and why did you do it? >> as you said, we are a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization comprised of people who believe that prevention is the way to end child abuse in this country and in our communities. >> and you also have a lot of products that we're gonna talk about in a little while, right? >> yes, yes. >> but, kathy, why did you and patty decide to join forces on this? >> well, you know, cheryl, i'd worked in the field for so long, and i consider myself a civilian now, i've been saying. i'm retired. i wanted to do someth