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pluswe get the one billion consumers from china, it is good not just for china, but the entire world.betty: can we get the eventual goal, which is good for the world economy, good for china to do this, can we get there without china falling into a recession? >> i think we can and i think there are plenty of things to be including thet economy at home and the political picture, which you in the introduction. i have never seen, and i daresay i have been right since you and i started talking about this seven or eight years ago, i have never seen china as fundamentally off-track. i have always said since two or three years ago, that you should look forward to china's gdp growth rate coming down to about five or sent or even lower. betty: you mean you should actually be happy about that. arehat it means is they doing the things they need to do, not relying on state letter growth by investment, which incurs debt, but raining that in and for -- starting to focus on consumption. that will take time to build and it is building in a positive way. we should be celebrating not only for china but

francine: there was a rumor about santander looking at -- pluswe are in nine markets europe, consumerce. italy is not one of them. we do corporate business but that is not one of our 10 markets. having critical mass is important. 10%.st of these markets spain and portugal, we are at 15%. critical to compete in this environment. botinchairman ana speaking with francine lacqua. let's turn to managing editor of finance elisa martinuzzi joining us. this big deal has been struck between italy and the european commission yet italian banks continue to decline. does that tell us that this deal might not be enough? elisa: i think it does. it has been long in the making and anticipation was high. having said that it is very much a watered-down plan compared to what the talks that had gone on initially. it is not a bad bank asked such. it is allowing banks individually to structure their bad debt in a way they can get guarantees from the government at a cost. this is supposed to be making the bad debt more palatable to investors who should be willing to pay a higher price. do, it will also widen