jillian turner, matt welch, in time. is in a shamble, matt, you've got no homework because of social justice. try to hold that line at your dunken doughnuts job. >> we need more people to go through this. when i was failing out of college, i didn't think anyone was listening to my so be story instead of actually going to class. it's bizarre to me that this -- that there's a market for listeners. kennedy: yeah. >> but that's actually a lot of the growth in college and administration is a bunch of kind of crappy we will listen to your so be story. kennedy: yeah, they're i facilitators and that's why college is so expensive because the administration is so top heavy. it's not about hiring wonderful professors who foster discussion, it's all the hacks in the front office who suck all the resources and it's a cartel. they've got no incentive to keep cost down, especially when college is free, and you love college. >> i'm all about college. kennedy: do these stories upset you? >> look, these kids in this case they need to get

tonight we have matt welch. is there any good news? >> libertarians from where they always are, on the outside looking in and talking about values and policy rather than personalities. since rand paul left the race, i don't think there i anyone who will do well among libertarians. rand paul wasn't doing so well either. john: 7 years ago "reason" wrote an article written by you, "the libertarian moment." >> it was written right after the financial crisis. there was no glimmer of hope collector alley about libertarianism. we argued that anything that happens on the libertarian front will happen to poll figures last. they don't get to go out of business. they still suck all our money. john: in the private sector. libertarians, ideas and actions are flush i shaling. >> we can tailor customize our lives and apply that in politic. we have seen marijuana legalized in half a dozen state. we have seen gay marriage legalized in this country. so when people talk about the libertarian moment and a. >and -- and poo-poo it, they are trying to make t

. >> as matt welch pointed out there is a backdoor the government has access to there is a backdoor other people can have access to. >> there are so many things i can't even begin to fathom. >> really? we are talking about one of the most important issues of our time. >> are you? >> have you read all of the user agreements before signing them? >> no, i don't sign them. >> don't you have to? >> no. >> exseptemberebbs september for -- except for matt you are all arguing. >> more stories when we come back. >>> live from america's news headquarters, i'm jackie ibanez. the 6-week standoff may finally be coming to an end. a short time ago the four remaining occupiers agreed to surrender this morning. this all comes after the federal agents surrounded the refuge with the armored vehicles saying the time had come for them to take some ago. the confrontation was at time tense with one-armed activist threatening to take fire if fired upon. it started as a use of federal land out west. congress has taken response to flint michigan crisis. they directed the epa to notify residents and officials when

tonight we have matt welch. is there any good news? >> libertarians from where they always are, on the outside looking in and talking about values and policy rather than personalities. since rand paul left the race, i don't think there i anyone who will do well among libertarians. rand paul wasn't doing so well either. john: 7 years ago "reason" wrote an article written by you, "the libertarian moment." >> it was written right after the financial crisis. there was no glimmer of hope collector alley about libertarianism. we argued that anything that happens on the libertarian front will happen to poll figures last. they don't get to go out of business. they still suck all our money. john: in the private sector. libertarians, ideas and actions are flush i shaling. >> we can tailor customize our lives and apply that in politic. we have seen marijuana legalized in half a dozen state. we have seen gay marriage legalized in this country. so when people talk about the libertarian moment and a. >and -- and poo-poo it, they are trying to make t

want to bring in columnist jennifer reuben and also joining me editor in chief of reason magazine matt welcho to you first because it does seem that the common denominator of what you're seeing from the cruz and rubio campaigns is that this race is really still all about donald trump. are they winning if all they're doing is talking about donald trump, making jokes about donald trump, reading donald trump's tweets and making snarky comments about drmonald trump? >> well, donald trump is ahead of them so i think they need to get going. i guess one of the questions we're going to have when we look back on this is why they didn't do it sooner. i think they're smart to take on him personally and to take on his business. he is a very vain man, he's very thin-skinned, i think they're hoping to provoke him. it was interesting in the footage you showed there, he seems sort of tired. his slams against them are kind of generic now. it's like he's run out of material and they're much more entertaining now than they were before and maybe even more entertaining than he was. so i think they're right to go

th week, california congressman ted lieuvermont coress memr peter welch,nd pennsylvania congressman matt cartwright send a letter to u.s. attorney general loretta lynch saying that a growing body of evidence suggests there was a "a conspiracy between shell, exxon mobil and potentially other companies in the fossil fuel industry." "the los angeles times" has reported that in 1989, shell oil announced it was redesigning its natural gas platform in the north sea in the atlantic in order to deal with rising sea levels caused by global warming. yet despite this admission, shell continued funding groups denying the existence of climate change for decades. oil giant exxon mobil is already facing a criminal investigation over similar charges that it mislead investors and lied to the public about the risks of climate change. the white house has announced president obama will visit argentina later this month in a trip that signals a "new era" in the two countries' relationship, only months after argentina's new right-wing president mauricio macri came to power. deputy u.s. national security advise

matt cartwright. >> tammy duckworth. >> robin kelly, brenda lawrence, ted lou, bonnie watson coleman. lieu. >> stacy plas ket, mark dee saul nare, brendan boyle. peter welch. >> michelle lujan grisham. jason chaffetz. jason chaffetz. about whether the flint former emergency manager, darnell early, should be testifying and my understanding is that he was invited to testify, but he declined. and now i am getting word that they may be issuing a subpoena for him, but i don't have that verified yet. >> so moving this forward, will this be the first of many hearings by the committee and committees on the hill? >> i think that congress will be -- yes. this is the first of many. this is the house oversight and government reform committee. i imagine that there will be hearings on the senate side as well and maybe in some of the other committees on the house