you saw the patruska video.iterally would have been inconceivable if=q in my first year said do you know what, guys, for this patruska you have to memorize this passage of music, stand up and dance around and you'll be wearing silly hats by the way as part of a costume. it would have been a flat out no. we had to build up to it. we had to do a production my first year. and very gently that was a conscious progression i had in mind. very simply suggested to the musicians do you know what, at this point you're going to crumple up pieces of paper and throw them at me the conductor. i knew that would be something they would be happyaway as theif foray out of the role of playing their instruments. little by little, they have shifted their idea of what is normal. the role of a musician, breaking down the fourth wall on the stage. how we interact with our audience off stage. the expectation that musicians have to do more than play music and also advocate for music itself. all of these things have little by little and i