. >> i have just met with about a dozen of the ballarat survivors, support people and officials. i have heard each of their stories and of their suffering. it was hard. an honest and occasionally emotional meeting. >> reporter: now in charge of the vatican economy pelr was a senior priest in his native town of ballarat in the 1970s when at least four pedophile peefts abused tens of children. the survivors who met with him on thursday say he knew about the abusers but failed to act-- priests >> we didn't talk about the past. i was very clear with george. i spoke about the future and what he can do in his position and what the catholic church can do to help the survivors going forward. >> humility, begging for give us from us, do whatever they can to restore the lives. >> reporter: throughout his evidence pell drew criticism from his apparent lack of empathy from the victims. >> it was a sad story and it wasn't of much interest to me. >> reporter: the commission accused pell of lying and called his claim that he was unaware of what was going on around him implausible. following his

. >> i met with about a dozen of the ballarat survivors, and they support people and officials. and i've heard each of their stories and their suffering. it was hard and honest and occasionally emotional meeting. >> now in charge of the vatican economy. pell was a priest in his native australian town of ball rats in the 1970s, when four paedophile priests abused tens of children. survivors that met with him say he knew about the abusers, but failed to act. >> we didn't talk about the fast. i was clear. we spoke about the future. what he can do, and his decision and what the catholic church can do. humility begging forgiveness from us. doing everything they can to restore the lives of victims out there. words is what we get. throughout his evidence pell drew criticism and scorn for his often allusive answers. and his empathy for the victims. >> it's a sad story, it wasn't of much interest to me. >> the commission accused pell of lying and called his claim that he was unaware of what was going on around him implausible. >> following his evidence child abuse campaigners in australi