david shepardson, to you first. you get the impression from listening to this hearing today that everybody involved bares some responsibility. is that accurate? >> i think everybody admits that things did not go well. i mean, the state, the local authorities, and the e.p.a. has probably a little bit different position, that they do not admit specific wrongdoing. all they admit is they did not act fast enough. the agency yesterday released 1,200 pages of e-mails that show that as far back as september the administrator asked her deputies whether it was appropriate the intervene and she said this could get big very quickly. so certainly the agency knew this was a growing issue of concern, but they did not opt to take the step of issuing an emergency order to intervene until january. >> woodruff: so given that, is there one individual or one agency that bares more responsibility than others? >> well, i guess it depends on your point of view. the main problem was that the state failed to add corrosion control to the wat

chris, we will let david shepardson respond.uest: in terms of regulators, governor snyder in december had an internal water task force the released a report that said -- that blamed much of the problem on the state, and that the state oneaucrats were too focused technical compliance and focused more on trying to dismiss and set aside the concerns by residents. as early as february, a flint resident came forward with these tests that showed high levels of lead in drinking water. how can weocused ensure, we think we are in compliance with the law, rather than focusing on the bigger issue -- is the water safety drink? -- safe to drink? can we show under this somewhat byzantine 25-year-old rule, the we are in compliance. host: the headline on "usa today," saying high lead levels found in 2000 water systems across the usa. if you administer june mccarthy talked a little bit about this in terms of the water systems for low income communities. i wanted to play what she had to say and hear your response. [video clip] the contours of the