the first step in primetime here is eric erickson. >> our next guest is eric erickson. he is co-author of you will be made to care, the war on faith, family, and your freedom to believe. he is also cofounder and editor of right state. he is now at the resurgent witches ache conservative news website. thank you for joining us. >> things were having me. >> let's start with the news of the day the fact that chris christie has come out in support of donald trump. what does this mean for donald trump? >> i think it will build his moment and with some. chris christie was on the campaign trail. he supported abortion rights for a long time, got hit by a number of the things, was too was too liberal for most of the base of the party. i do not note that is an adjustment donald trump needed going into the southern states. we he may needed to hold it but i think he needed to change the conversation. >> do you think this is the first sign that the gop establishment is really extend machine the fact that trump is the nominee here? >> no i don't think so. i think they want to see what

eric erickson, a friend of mine, ben sass is another one. what do you make of those people -- there's a big deal that people said they would support the nominee, but what of conservatives who say they're going to back out? >> unless ted cruz starts beating trump in a way that trump has been beating cruz, i think -- and that could happen. it could be that cruz has more delegates at the end. maybe this whole thing shifts. i don't know what's going to happen. but at some point, and i think it's got to be some point somewhat soon, people have to grow up. i liked rick santorum in 2012. i like his ideas. in the end, he didn't have enough delegates. i wasn't going to not support romney. that just makes no stuff. it's like parlor games that make people feel better. >> but many conservatives do not believe what trump says. trump on conservative justices, et cetera. why don't they believe him? they just think that past as a businessman is too risky to overcome? >> i don't know if it's they don't know anybody in the campaign or they find him vulgar. pe

. >> i'm not sympathetic to the eric ericksons of the world. any effort to help anybody but the ruch can nominee helps hillary clinton. charles: joining me, eric erickson, one of the organizers of the meeting to stop donald trump. you talk about being a conservative activist and you say the issue of donald trump is great than the issue of the party. you talk about morals and character. you heard newt gingrich say that what you are doing is essentially helping to elect hillary clinton. all the data shows she'll get elected if trump is the nominee. charles: you say you want to keep your options open. when this started and a lot of powerful people within the gop thought maybe donald trump would and nuisance but they wanted to contain him store corral him -- contain him or corral him, why should you agree to the the same pledge that was foisted upon donald trump. some of the major republican voters and one in d.c. of conservative grass roots activists. that's the one i was a part of, not of the donors. northern us are running for president. we are

. >> the issue for people like eric erickson is not who is he going to put on the supreme court, it's a fundamental moral issue. they don't think he's a moral man. they feel like he's not going to be a pro-lifer, that they feel like they would rather go down voting for someone, even if they steal the vote from the republicans for someone whose convections they believe and character they believe. >> yeah, i think that's true, megyn. we don't know honestly. can anyone say what donald trump is going to do, if, and we still have a long way to go, and cruz is shortening that gap, but in looking at this, do we know what would happen during a trump presidency? can anyone say for certain? he's been all over the board. i understand where these people are coming from. they have no idea what they're getting. they know what they would be getting with hillary clinton. they're not saying they're going to support hillary clinton either. it's a false e quiquivalency. i've been hearing a lot of talk about hamilton's rule. >> elect the most conservative electable candidate. great to see you both. >>> w

but then you have eric erickson coming out jeffrey and called mr. cretin and a gold beated sleaze to get the republican party to run against him. >> donald trump has won endorsements from governor christie on the moderate side of the gop ledger, he's won endorsements from jeff sessions. i do believe the unification process has already begun. i like eric erickson a lot. and i'm a fan but i have to say he's going off the rails with this. i don't speak for donald trump on this, i don't speak certainly for eric erickson, i just think he's making a mistake, it's fine if he wants to oppose donald trump, this is america, it's what the democratic process is all about. but i can tell you that i will be supporting the republican nominee, period. >> a scathing attack going on right now, actually it's on donald trump. actually it's about to begin. there you see senator harry reid, he's expected to deliver a major address, blasting the republican front-runner and the role the republican party has played in his rise to popularity, we will monitor this and bring i

. >> tell me who eric erickson is. >> an influential republican. he and everybody else in the room two or three months ago, anybody but hillary. this is now anybody but trump, including hillary. if they do a third party -- >> tell me, all three of you, tell me what it is about trump about the brazenness, what it is about the ideology, his philosophy? is that too long a list? >> ronald reagan talks about the republican party and donald trump doesn't endorse any one of those, which they would be a foreign policy, being conservative on social issues and discipline fiscal policy. none of those does trump subscribe to the traditional republican formulation. >> but the grassroots love him. >> donald trump does not respect or care what the republican establishment or its leadership, he doesn't care what eric erickson thinks. he doesn't care what mitch mcconnell thinks, paul ryan thinks, they know they'll lose power, marco rubio would have followed a lot of their instructions, donald trump, cynical, but it happens to be true. >> he said there is a bunch of

a frustrated group led by eric erickson, emerging with a call for a unity ticket for the gop and looking ahead to a contested convention. the stop-trump movement regrouping to reassess how to slow him down. two road blocks slowing them down. first, trump could still lock up the nomination before the convention. ads against him not doing much, as he more than doubled his delegate lead this week, even after outside groups spent $13 million. >> now we're having conversations with donors, gauging the interest in moving ahead. >> reporter: anti-trump activists trying to convince delegates to be the convention. >> real people with lives and schedules and vacations and cell phones and twitter accounts all have to be found, cataloged, and wooed. >> reporter: the message to them, in the words of one activist, people who bultd this party have been here longer than the newcomers who are the whole thing down. >> those of us who are delegates in colorado. >> reporter: the second issue for the stop-trump movement, calling for unity without special vying to the party. new signs cruz may have the edge.

people like eric erickson, he would not be considered a squish or a rino, he is a conservative. and then you have establishment people. so he's fighting on three fronts. i thought last night when he tried to make the pivot in his press conference, he did okay that. to charlie's point, the 47% that was able to sink mitt romney, because the democrats are looking for any of those three words. the democrats, 47% against romney, the republicans, you didn't build that, which is what they tried to tag on to obama. so now he's trying to consolidate the republican party and you know the democrats are going to walk in lock step. so they're looking for that 47%, what is it going to be? they might already even have it. and looking at any of the nominees that the republicans would put forward. i think donald trump -- mitt romney tomorrow is going to harken back to the speech he gave when he decided not to run six months ago. >> chris, we're going to have rubio and cruz on tonight. is it all -- is it real in your view? does either of those guys actually have any path? >> look, they have a pat

glenn beck, eric erickson. >> i heard those guys. i lover all of them.y are good conservatives. >> give me a break. on your network charles krauthammer. steven hayes. these guys were conservatives. >> adrianna, if you are hillary clinton, do you put money in this super pac? >> exactly. >> hillary clinton has donald trump campaign. >> mitt romney the two-time loser melting mettle ling in this election and wet their pants because they will finally lose power and lose the nomination to donald trump, they are basically, this pac, your pac is directly helping hillary clinton. because i will tell you what's going to happen when the establishment elites like mitt romney stab taj this election at the convention. that's going to alienate a whole swath of people. what's going to happen is we are going to punch back during the general election. we are not going to show up at the polls because we are not going to be forced into electing ted cruz or another candidate that we didn't pick. and hillary is going to win. >> adrianna, hold on. i want to play a sound bite t

glenn beck, eric erickson. >> i heard those guys. i lover all of them.y are good conservatives. >> give me a break. on your network charles krauthammer. steven hayes. these guys were conservatives. >> adrianna, if you are hillary clinton, do you put money in this super pac? >> exactly. >> hillary clinton has donald trump campaign. >> mitt romney the two-time loser melting mettle ling in this election and wet their pants because they will finally lose power and lose the nomination to donald trump, they are basically, this pac, your pac is directly helping hillary clinton. because i will tell you what's going to happen when the establishment elites like mitt romney stab taj this election at the convention. that's going to alienate a whole swath of people. what's going to happen is we are going to punch back during the general election. we are not going to show up at the polls because we are not going to be forced into electing ted cruz or another candidate that we didn't pick. and hillary is going to win. >> adrianna, hold on. i want to play a sound bite t

>> i already battled with eric erickson, it's people like him and mitt romney included, that don't seehe big picture. you have something special happening around this country. you have a whole new briefed reagan democrats. people coming in who haven't voted for a while who are looking forward to participating in the process. to then say if it's donald trump, i'm not voting for him, then they can look in the mirror the day after the election and see hillary clinton about to be sworn in and know they gave up the judicious positions you are talking about right now, the cabinet secretaries and ambassadors to potentially be the tie-breaking vote in the senate. if you want to make hillary or bernie the president, then shame on you, i'm getting tired of hearing it. martha: there are those who share that sentiment, but others want to dig in until this convention. there is a feeling and a mood out there that will be very just set if they get ignored and pushed after he side in this process. donald trump was arguing this morning that people who speak out against him on television and elsewhere,

. >> but people like eric erickson and the never trump crowd, they're allowed to not like trump.hey're not talking about changing the rules but stopping him according to the rules. >> it's detrimental in the party and helping hillary clinton. >> what's helping hillary clinton is we see higher than ever democratic registration. >> you have to be worried about trump. even david plouffe said he doesn't envi hillary clinton running against donald trump. >> when you debate the issues about immigration reform, infrastructure, raising the minimum wage, hillary clinton is going to win and big. >> hillary clinton has been governing for over 20 years, what is her offer to the american people? things are going to get better and i'm going to change things? she doesn't have any new ideas. >> the question is whether he can peel off enough latinos and women to make up the gap that mitt romney lost. and if he can't, can he make up that gap with these new voters with the blue collar democrats? >> losing women by record numbers puts him behind in the beginning and he's encouraging more democrats t

up with people who exploit the movement and people who hurt the movement i've had people like eric erickson tweet positive things about this book. he's a good talk radio's host himself in a conservative blogger. the weekly standard had a great review. i just spoke at the leadership institute at the wake up breakfast. their conservative organization where i used work. i'm telling you, so so many people, so many people. >> i feel like donald trump, but so many people came up to me about the book. when i first started writing columns five years ago i got it on of pushback. if i dared to say anything bad i was a rino and a sellout and a squish. i think the timing of this is right in so many ways including the fact that people are fed up. when she says i don't care if he performs abortions in the white house as long as he has this hard-core anti- immigration policy, i think people are finally waking up and a lot of conservatives who were hesitant to engage, or this criticism there finally like yeah it's time. >> somebody needs to look under the hood. >> do you think, all of these very successful

lou: joining us now, eric erickson. radio host for wsb in atlanta, georgia. fox news contributor.ith us. you have got to have your blood pressure up just a little bit. feeling something, everyone saying third parties are a crazy idea. this is not the time. tell us what is on your mind. >> you know, i said, i think right now talk of a third party is not helpful. a distraction from ted cruz. but there are a lot of conservative, not establishment guys, but social and fiscal conservatives who think that trump is not one of them. they want someone to vote for. lou: now, you think cruz is one of you? he was 4 years, an establishment republican. he -- >> no, i don't think he is. >> i'm sorry? >> i don't think he is an establishment guy, those in washington are opposed to him. he stood up for conservatives again republicans in the senate. that is why none of them want to support them. i think that cruz is more of a conservative. lou: a unifier? >> he is more for republicans than trump is. lou: this becomes fine slices. you came together, a group of social conservatives, why in the world w

i argue, and i quote right right at the beginning of the book eric erickson, a very conservative blog where he said the republican party created donald trump because they made a lot of promises they didn't key. ever since barry goldwater, the republicans promise to create a small government which no republican president could do whether you are talking about nixon or reagan or either president bush. they promise the cultural changes in the 60s. most of the country didn't want to rollback those cultural changes and their efforts failed. more recently, a lot of republicans, including trump have said they would try to change the ethnic makeup of the country back to where it used to be. that's a call for deporting 11 million people. that is one way in which trump is explained by this history. the other is that the republican party has relied for many years on the votes of white working-class voters. as conservative riders in the book, among others, the party has gotten word working-class votes and done absolutely nothing material or you for working-class voters. i think when at the trump

i quote at the beginning of the book eric erickson from a red state conservative blog where he says the republican party created donald trump because they made a lot of promises they did not key. ever since barry goldwater, republicans promised to create a small government which no republican president could do whether you are talking about next and, reagan, or either president bush. they promise to roll back the cultural changes in the 1960s but most of the country did not want to rollback those cultural changes in their efforts failed. more recently a lot of republicans including no trump has said that they would try to change the ethnic makeup of the country back to where it used to be that is a call for deporting 11 million people. that is one way in which the rise of trump is explained by this history, the other is the republican party has relied for many years on the votes of white working-class voters. as conservative writers writers eyesight in the book like among others have written the republican party has gotten working-class votes and done absolutely nothing materially for w

. >> according to politico, conservatives including eric erickson is meeting tomorrow to discuss a potentialrd-party run against donald trump. the gop's perpetual white knight, current speaker paul ryan, after initially declining to rule it out, ryan said in a statement he wouldn't accept the nomination. don't forget, that's exactly what he said about being speaker of the house. look where he is now. as donald trump's lead in the delegate count continues to expand so does his control over the republican party, itself. after trump warned of riots in the case of a contested convention this morning implicitly threatening violence to make sure he gets his way, rnc spokesman sean spicer actually came to his defense. >> i think you'd have riots. i think you'd have riots. i'm representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people. >> i assume he's speaking figuratively. if we go into convention, whoever gets 1,237 delegates become the nominee. >> a trump surrogate if they -- today after trump dropped out of next monday's republican debate, the rnc and fox news decided to, well, cancel it altogeth

. >> one of the organizers of the group, eric erickson, here he is. >> strong coalition of looking at going to the existing candidates, kasich, cruz, saying you need to cut a deal, find a unity ticket within the republican party, fall back option would be a third party, the consensus is everyone would rather settle this on the convention floor. >> mike huckabee who dropped out last month said that would hand the election to hillary clinton. and destroy the republican party. what eric ericson just said. >> i thought we had voters. i thought that's what we do. i wanted to be the nominee, but guess what, i'm not. i'm not going to start a third party. i'm not going to blow up the republican party, because i didn't get my way. i accept that in an election, voters get to make the decision. >> this is so crazy, jay, because in the first debate, the reagan library, they asked will you all support the nominee of the party. the only one that wouldn't was donald trump, now anybody but trump is talking about dumping the nominee. >> if you could parachute somebody in at the 11th hour, lindsey grah

. >> that sounds like spin and conservatives like eric erickson and glenn beck and -- >> we have goteave it right there. great debate. tim and katrina thank you very much. directly ahead on this special edition of "the o'reilly factor." the war between mitt romney and donald trump. canú/ there be any winners? upcoming. your credit is in pretty good shape. chuck, i know i have a 798 fico score, thanks to experian.com. kaboom... get your credit swagger on. go to experian.com. become a member of experian credit tracker and take charge of your score. >>> in the personal story segment tonight, romney vs. trump. just hours before the big debate yesterday, mitt romney delivered a 17 minute diatribe against donald trump calling him unfit for office and a danger to the nation. that, folks, was just the first shot in the newest political war. >> he was a failed candidate. he should have beaten president obama very easy. he failed miserably. and it was an embarrassment to everybody, including the republican party. >> well, there's no question i'm going to do everything within the normal politic

that group is led by eric erickson who has spoken of a third-party option in recent days, telling melissar the bill that is not necessarily the starting point for the meeting. >> the first goal is not a third-party but to see can everyone wrap around ted cruz as the nominee and set aside grievances between people who pick different candidates and see if there is enough movement? >> reporter: erickson expects 50 top republicans, trump thinks a third party from the republican side would lead to a, quote, absolute total victory for democrats. trump made the argument in recent days that he is bringing, he says, millions of new republicans into the fold this election cycle. maria: people are really reacting on twitter as well. the question i ask, thank you, blake berman, does the establishment have a 10 year? we know donald trump is winning. and this push to take him down get stronger. >> a lot of the exit polls particularly in ohio and other states have shown democrats voting in the gop primary and we know where their votes are going. >> i am having these conversations with people every day.

church attending white evangelical voters, he also is the candidate of movement conservatives, the eric erickson crowd, the crowd that cares about conservatism as a thing as distinct from the republican party. there has been a big push within that group of conservatives to challenge the establishment of the republican party for accommodating and capitulating to donald trump. i have seen that capitulation firsthand. we had on "meet the press" mitch mcconnell come on and refuse to walk away from donald trump. you've had the speaker i have sn that capitulating firsthand. we saw the speaker of the house criticize donald trump but none of them is saying they will not support donald trump if he is the nominee. and that capitulation has created a lot of uncertainty and anger. he is also now representing movement conservatives and they want the establishment to walk away from donald trump. they're not doing it so far. >> i want to thank hally jackson and governor dean here. bernie sanders the projected winner in the alaska democratic caucus today. you can see it there in washington, as well. >> thank yo

. >> that sounds like spin and conservatives like eric erickson and glenn beck and -- >> we have goteave it right there. great debate. tim and katrina thank you very much. directly ahead on this special edition of "the o'reilly factor." the war between mitt romney and donald trump. canú/ there be any winners? upcoming. and check out 2016 boats at 2015 prices. plus, get the 2016 tracker pro team 195 txw for the same as the 2014 price. you're down with crestor. alright! now there's a way you can get crestor for $3. adding crestor, along with diet, lowers bad cholesterol. crestor is not for people with liver disease, or women who are nursing,pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take. call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness; feel unusually tired; have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine or yellowing of skin or eyes. these could be signs of serious side effects. ask for the crestor $3 card. ask your doctor about crestor. it's my job and it's i takealso my passion.rises. but with my back pain i couldn't sleep... so i couldn't get up i

then at 8:15, eric erickson talks about his book, "you will be made to care: the war on faith, family and your freedom to believe." prime time continues at 9 p.m. with washington post columnist e.j. dionne talking to juan williams of fox news about republican politics on booktv's "after words." at 10 p.m. eastern a look at teaching in a new york city public high school. and that's followed at 11 with daniel oppenheimer. he examines six political personalities who changed their ideological allegiances from the left to the right. that all happens tonight on c-span2's booktv. >> every day books are reviewed by publications throughout the country. here's a look at some recently-reviewed books. washington post columnist e.j. dionne's look at the state of the republican party was reviewed in the los angeles times by michael boblian. he writes that mr. dionne identifies john boehner as the latest in a long series of republicans transformed from conservative hero to villain and notes that other than ronald reagan, who has been spared this fate despite compromising with democrats on taxes and

lets me say for a second about the eric erickson approach.nest, if you want to help elect hillary clinton, then help elect hillary clinton and a radical court. don't give us any pius baloney that you're going to be for some virtuous middle way. there's no virtuous middle way here. you're either for the republican nominee, when trump or cruz, or you're for the election of hillary clinton. there's no middle ground here. >> of course, yesterday in washington, d.c., eric erickson who is a conservative guy from down south, he met with some other conservative people to try to figure out, okay, if donald trump is the nominee, how do we put together a third way? you know, newt gingrich is very clear, a vote for anybody other than the nominee is a vote for hillary clinton. it's that clear. we had michael mislansky on, a pollster. and so many on the right who don't like donald trump they if he's the guy, i'm going to vote for somebody else or stay home. michael meslansky says they say that every time. whether it was about a mitt romney or john mccain o

also you had on the right, eric erickson, a conservative logger, who said this -- eric erickson alsoent on to say that this will be part of the governor's race in 2015. what is your reaction to the state religious liberty laws? charlie in simi valley california -- in simi valley, california, go ahead. you support them. waser: the first amendment not to keep religion out of the government. it is to keep the government out of religion. and if our country, which was based on a christian background and providence, and has been since the 1960's turning in such a way with legislation to get it back on to track -- and i realize that probably sounds like i am contradicting myself, that the country sets itself straight again. look, there are going to be people who have choice, and you do have a choice on your religion, or to have no religion. there are plenty of people that will still marry couples of same-sex. there are still people who will bake them cakes for their wedding. so they should not impose on people who it is against their religion to bake that cake or to marry that couple. they

eastern with eric erickson.is book is "you will be made to care: the war on faith, family and your freedom to believe." then at 7:30 former u.n. assistant secretary general michael doyle talks about interventionism. and at nine, science journalist sonya shaw reports on the spread of infectious disease. that's followed by "after words" with washington post columnist e.j. dionne talking to fox news' juan williams about republican politics. and we finish up our prime time programming with an 11 p.m. program, john steele gordon gives a history of the washington monument. that all happens tonight on c-span2's booktv. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening, everyone. my name is vicki goodman, and on behalf of the friends of the institute for neuroscience and human behavior at ucla, it is my pleasure to the welcome you to this open mind presentation. we are honored and proud to have with us this evening a preeminent scientist who really needs no introduction to this audience. our director of the institute and author

but he could -- and i think for lots of people in the republican party, especially those, eric ericksonnd the like, they are worried about what it means, down ticket, down ballot. in terms of maintaining the senate house majority. that's why you see the republican establishment splintered at this moment. leland: they are. look at what worked and what didn't work in attacking republicans. thanks for being here. martha: we are work on some breaking news reports that dna from the prime suspect in the paris terrorist attack was found in a raid that took place during this week in belgium it comes as a massive manhunt is under way for salam. (vo) you can check on them. you can worry about them. you can even choose a car for them. (mom) honey, are you ok? (child) i'm ok. (announcer vo) love. (mom) we're ok. (announcer vo) it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. rethink. reimagine. because right here, right now. it's time to take a closer look at botox® cosmetic, the only fda approved treatment for the temporary improvement of both moderate to severe frown lines and crow's feet. see what real resul

. -- eric erickson. his book is you will be made to care: the or war on faith, family and your freedom to believe. then at 7:30 former u.n. assistant secretary general michael doyle talks about interventionism. and at nine, science journalist sonya shaw reports on the spread of infectious disease. that's followed by "after words" with washington post columnist e.j. dionne talking to fox news' juan williams about republican politics. and we finish up our prime time programming with an 11 p.m. e.t. program. john steel gordon gives a history of the washington monument. that all happens tonight on c-span2's booktv. >> host: and now next on booktv, a discussion of "the solicitor general and the united states supreme court." there's the book cover. co-author is university of wisconsin professor ryan owens. professor owens, what is a us have to have general? -- solicitor general? >> guest: so the solicitor general is the attorney for the united states. he or she represents the united states' interests in the su

you have eric erickson, an influential conservative tearing apart any conservative who would dare to meet with trump. basically for anybody who supports donald trump, who is going to meet with donald trump they have basically a political bounty on their head from these very well funded anti-trump forces. >> interesting. i want to bring in cnn's breanna keilar inside the verizon center. not only will donald trump speak there but democrats will speak, too. hillary clinton in particular but not bernie sanders. why? >> bernie sanders is out west campaigning and he is not going to be coming back to the east coast clearly prioritizing campaigning on the west coast. it is interesting. he is the only jewish candidate in the race but today he will be giving a foreign policy speech in utah. i want to tell you something, one of the leaders came out and spoke to the crowd and said the group invited candidates that they don't necessarily agree with on substance or tone. he implored the audience not really to make any sort of signs of disapproval. he said if you like what you hear, clap. if you do

we saw eric erickson just this morning, a influential social conservative voice saying marco rubio needsrace and run at ted cruz's vice president and if that happens he thinks they can take out donald trump. which is interesting. but when we talk about losers on the night you have to say that marco rubio was a big loser but perhaps even the biggest loser right now is the establishment because they have yet to have a candidate win a mainly contest or a contest al all. >> so speaking of winning a contest, let's go to boris sanchez in san one, puerto rico, where marco rubio is hoping to pick up their 23 delegates. what are you hearing from rubio's campaign? it couldn't have been a great night for them we know in the delegate count. with he didn't pick up delegates in half the states that voted and caucused. >> reporter: yeah obviously a less than super saturday for marco rubio. the campaign making light of the fact that those were not exactly states he was expected to well in. he said the kind of voter in those states he doesn't necessarily have the best appeal for those voters. but he's ho

that group is being met by the prominent blogger eric mcentarffeeric erickson also told melissa francis yesterday on after the bell that the first goal to wrap everyone around ted cruz ore potentially even john kasich. also in the news today the house speaker paul ryan he tried to once again bat down any suggestion that he could emerge from a potential brokered convention. ryan, though, was not as terse when talking about the possibility of that very brokered convention. take a listen. >> more likely to become an open convention than we thought before. so we're getting our minds around the idea that this -- concluded very well be a reality and therefore those of us involved in the convention need to respect that. >> in the meantime the twin cities pioneer press, ashley, that is a newspaper in minnesota is reporting in a conference call with reporters in that state, marco rubio said ted cruz was quote the only conservative left in the race. that newspaper, though, reports fell short of an endorsement of rubio on that call. a lot gong ongoing. back to you. >> every day, every hour, every

i was listening to erick erickson who i like, have a great deal of respect for. when eric said we got together and decided that this wasn't going to work, i was screaming at the monitor. who is we? i thought we had voters. i thought that's what we do. you know, look, i wanted to be the nominee, gretchen, that's why i ran. >> right. >> guess what, i'm not. i'm not going to go start a third party. i'm not going to try to blow up the republican party because i didn't get my way. i accept in an election voters get to make a decision. the message coming across voters are stupid so we'll try to figure out how to make a decision for you. news flash, the voters don't trust the people who have been in power. >> right. >> they're sick of them. they're tired of their orthodoxy. >> i know. i totally hear you. i think what's fascinating to me about this, governor, is that voters are upset with the establishment as well. here today on this exclusive call you have -- he said it's conservative activists. it's not the establishment. so now you have two factions, you know, really, really go

eric. nats but as trump continues to lead in the republican delegate count, texas senator ted cruz becomes the recipient of reluctant endorsements as dyed-in-the-wool conservatives look for a viable alternative. sot erickson: "they are also willing to fight donald trump and a donald trump establishment because he doesn't share our values" (gfx) in washington, a group of grassroots conservatives met privately plotting to take trump down, saying-quote- "we are committed to ensuring a real conservative candidate is elected." lana on cam tag: since iowa, anti-trump new at noon... u-s joint chiefs of staff are *confirming* the missile launches in north korea. korea.defense officials say they tracked two ballistic missiles -- fired from a location north of the country's capital.this launch happened just days after north korean leader kim jong un ordered tests of a nuclear warhead and ballistic missiles capable of carrying warheads. springtime scams...before you plan your next beach getaway -- you need to know about tricks scammers are using to target *you*!the new way they're trying to rip you off. you're watching 9 on your side if you're like me... the thought of spring has you itching for a vacation!but befor