the two people involved in this most now are the fbi director jim comey, and the attorney general lorettach. when we talked to her she said this is going a pace. she would not answer whether she is the ultimate decider but i assume she is. >> it would be highly unusual for jim comey to conduct the investigation himself but i wouldn't put it past him because is he a detail-oriented guy who has been receiving daily reports on this since they started the investigation a year ago. >> that is it for the panel but not the topic. i'm sure we will be back here. stay tuned as we take a look at a very polite donald trump. >>> finally tonight, donald trump might come off as combative to some at times. one late night show compiled the evidence from tuesday night's town hall proving he definitely has not forgotten his manners. >> you are running for president of the united states. >> excuse me. i didn't start it. >> excuse me. excuse me. >> i didn't suggest. >> excuse me, excuse me. >> excuse me. excuse me. >> excuse me. >> excuse me. >> excuse me. >> excuse me, excuse me. >> we won utah. >> excuse me

because jim comey, a man who doesn't use words casually, or carelessly, among the adverbs he used tocribe how he would deal with this was the word promptly. and i don't know whether it's my imagination or not, but i think his voice dropped a little bit when he got to that word. i take him seriously. i take him at his word. >> the fact they are granting immunity to her staffer and he says this will be done promptly, you would expect a head to this case in the next couple weeks. >> yes. i don't know about couple but the next several. >> you have to believe that this has impacted her standing as a candidate because bernie sanders is beating her in some races. >> sanders has a different appeal and has foresworn any reliance on or invocation of the e-mails. >> what's the worst-case scenario or best case for hillary clinton in the next several weeks? how does this play out? >> best case for her is the fbi makes an announcement saying they have found no evidence of any criminal liability from the misdemeanor that general petraeus pleaded guilty to on up to obstruction. no evidence of that.

do we hear from jim comey, talk of an indictment?that is a good question really for the attorney general, rather than head of investigation. anthony: i have learned from you, there is a process in place, the government itself, sort of subordinates of the law is that true? >> very much so. a strength of our system, we're all equal before the law. anthony: i had lunch with justice scalia just once in my life. he were talking about the construct. he said, anthony everyone has flowery -- do you think that is true. >> i do. maria: we have this whole debate about the naming of the next person for justice scalia's seat. how does it feel to you in terms of the two-sides not able to get together. it feels like this is getting in the way, and has been, to getting things done. >> it has very much so. this is why highlighted earlier that fact that this election seems to show that politics as usual, that has been quite disfunctional, with exception of last year, you have to give credit to congress passing trade promotion authority for the preside

that's not the case that jim comey has been yelling about on the hill.testified just two or three weeks ago at this point and jesse mentioned december but his buddy mentions another case. and ios nine from a woman eight months pregnant opened her door and she's murder. no leads in that case, no, i didn't get a. the family has given consent the phone. she has a detailed i'm on the phone to the fbi and certainly there is some evidence about whawhat you plan to do that dayn the phone and they can't unlock it. i don't think this is a case of the fbi trying to use kind of the most dramatic set of facts. whenever i personally think about how do i come down on these issues and where did my values -- >> that's the second most dramatic set of facts, the dead woman. >> right, but these are all real things. its regional to decide another value is more important but it's not reasonable to pretend as though people don't really care about investigating terrorist attacks. it's not reasonable to not pretend people are really murdered in this country that biggest issue w

jim comey says he need as apple help breaking into san bernardino gunman's home. apple says complying complying e endanger its products and data everywhere. we should all care how this end. we're in uncharted territory. the fbi want tim cook's engineers to build a brand new custom operating system. critics call it gov-os or fbi-os. an operating system would be easier for the bureau to open and search. some call it a golden key or backdoor. director comey says it's a front door. a law full search for leads from a dead homegrown terrorist. either way it is a battle over much more than one phone. manhattan's district attorney cy vance says he has 175 apple devices in sitting in new york evidence lockers he can't unlock. the los angeles pd has several hundred more. apple has already flagged more than a dozen cases across the united states where the fbi wants it to crack down, to crack its own security systems. if apple unlocks one device where will the line be drawn? the endgame, what every it is, will impact your phone, my phone and millions of others. it could have

that's actually not the case jim comey has been sort of yelling about on the hill. he testified just two or three weeks ago at this point and yes, he mentioned the san bernardino case but he actually mentioned another case. an ios 9, a woman eight months pregnant heopens her door and i murdered. no leads, no idea who did it. the family gave consent to open the phone. she has a detailed diary on the phone. the fbi is certain there is some evidence of what she planned to do that day on that phone and the fbi can't unlock it. i don't think this is a case of the fbi just trying to use kind of the most dramatic set of facts. whenever i sort of personally think about well, how do i come down on these issues and where do my -- >> that's the second most dramatic set of facts, the dead woman. right? >> right, but these are all real things. i think it's reasonable to decide another value is more important but it's not reasonable to pretend as though people don't really care about investigating terrorist attacks. it's not reasonable to pretend like people really aren't murdere

i have utmost confidence in jim comey, the fbi director.e completely intact in this investigation, and that he's going to put loretta lynch and those at the justice department in a very untenable position very soon. look, giving immunity to one of these key individuals in this case is very important and telling. one is we may learn soon whether or not there's a grand jury impanelled. that's a very important element. lou: i want to turn if we may, from the clinton probe to romney's attack today. conservatism on parade. i mean, all of a sudden in this country, romney is a conservative? a conservative? are you kidding me? >> yeah, look, mitt romney's never been a conservative. he said he was a severe conservative here at cpac a couple of years ago. i think that tells you all you need to know. look, mitt romney coming out and attacking donald trump only helps donald trump! i don't know what these people, what memo they did not get. lou: monica crowley was saying exactly the same thing here earlier, and i think you're both right. from what i can

jim comey was one of my assistant u.s.rneys. >> he is an honest man. >> straight as an arrow and very smart. >> okay. so you have to then consider that within 60 days they're going to have to have something. they can't let it drag on too much$ longer, can they. >> i'm surprised actually it's taken this long. >> all right. when you offer someone immunity as they did in this case, all right, does that mean a grand jury is already impaneled to hear what the man says? >> no. they offered him what's called queen for a day. they offered him immunity with regard to what is he telling the fbi. i don't know. they may have put him before a grand jury there could be a grand jury already convened in this case? it's possible? >> it would be very unlikely. >> very unlikely at this point. >> that you wouldn't convene a grand jury given the facts that exist. i would find that very surprising. >> so there could be a grand jury secretly convened because we haven't gotten any confirmation of that. >> not allow to do talk about it. >> right.

jim comey was one of my assistant u.s.torneys. >> he is an honest man. >> straight as an arrow and very smart. >> okay. so you have to then consider that within 60 days they're going to have to have something. they can't let it drag on too much$ longer, can they. >> i'm surprised actually it's taken this long. >> all right. when you offer someone immunity as they did in this case, all right, does that mean a grand jury is already impaneled to hear what the man says? >> no. they offered him what's called queen for a day. they offered him immunity with regard to what is he telling the fbi. i don't know. they may have put him before a grand jury there could be a grand jury already convened in this case? it's possible? >> it would be very unlikely. >> very unlikely at this point. >> that you wouldn't convene a grand jury given the facts that exist. i would find that very surprising. >> so there could be a grand jury secretly convened because we haven't gotten any confirmation of that. >> not allow to do talk about it. >> right

for all i know, jim comey's not going to recommend charges.you imagine if you had two front runners or two nominees both of whom have a massive cloud over their head that involves legal issues? >> right. we should point out this is a civil case. hillary -- liz: yes. which is not criminal. >> hillary's would be a criminal case, hillary clinton's. you know, listen, yeah, we're in another dimension here. i mean, listen, i've covered this stuff a long time. i don't remember candidates running for office that are under this sort of cloud of investigations from not just -- listen, bill clinton gave depositions, and he might have lied under oath. he was impeached. but you remember, he wasn't running -- i don't know that he was running while all that stuff was going on. this is pretty interesting stuff. liz: well, it continues. and we've got a major market move here, charlie, up 313 points. a good first day of march. >> i was just talking to to one of your guests, and i'm sure he'll be on and arrest this as well -- and say this as well, what's prompti

. >> let me ask you jim comey has said that he wanted -- wander. >> she actually said if she had to goivate e-mail but in terms of of what she was doing compliance that she was compliant. >> i don't think it is only using private e-mail but also having a server she made the case in the past that, secretaries of state of gmail accounts she is only one had a investor in her basement. >> she has really 55,000 pages of e-mails this election is not about hillary clinton's e-mails here spent bernie sanders said that it is whether or not we are going to be able to help people, who feel like they are not on the firm of the ground have more confidence be able to make sure they can help kids be better off, and make sure that they can reach the middle class. >> i have got to ask this question jim comey wants to wrap this investigating up promptly that tells me that it is sort of nearing the -- the closure we all know that fbi does not finish an investigation without questioning the person involved. has hillary clinton been asked to speak to the fbi. >> i have no knowledge s whatsoever about that,

represented here by its leader jim comey. the sprawling investigation here, as director comey already mentioned, involved a lot of different f.b.i. offices. i want to mention and acknowledge and thank them also. they involved the field offices in chicago, cincinnati, new york, phoenix and san francisco. finally, i want to thank the fine men and women in my own office who made this happen, especially tim howard. supervisors, nicole freelander who lead our fraud and cybercrime unit. t me introduce the assistant district attorney, john garland. >> thank you. under his leadership there's no better partner in the country for the national security division that and the southern district of new york. as someone who has friends in new york city i'm grateful he's there and those that defend against national security threats and i want to thank the for the f.b.i. for the investigation. and the victims who are sometimes not treated as victims when it comes to cyberattacks. we know that the bad guys are not you. the bad guys are the peopl

i think jim comey is a very good person.gitimate man caught in a very difficult bind. they have hundreds of phones, sigh vance, who testified, they have hundreds of phones they can't gain access to. as a civil libertarian, i'm okay with that. but if my client's freedom depended on me gaining access to it, i could switch sides in a hartd beat. >> i have a feeling you would gain access. thanks for joining us. time for a news update with sue herrera. >> here's what's happening. series of artillery shells exploded on the main street of a syrian village sending a group of international reporters running for cover. the journalist were on a tour organized by russia's defense and foreign ministries, the shelling came from al nusra positions. north korea's foreign minister says his country will never be bounds of those critical of human rights issue and would not take part in sessions that singled it out. >>> california's statewide snow pack is only 83% of its march 1st average, the result of only moderate precipitation since last oc

and of course, the fbi represented here by its leader, jim comey. vestigation here, as director comey already mentioned, involved a lot of different fbi offices. and i want to mention and acknowledge and thank them also. >> all right, that is preet bharara, the u.s. attorney of the southern district of new york, who along with fbi director james comey and u.s. attorney general loretta lynch are at the justice department announcing they are charging seven iranians with cyber attacks. eamon javers has been following this case. he joins us now from washington with some reaction. eamon, a lot of discussion to your earlier point about what message they're trying to send here. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, sara. and the tension behind the scenes for the fbi and u.s. law enforcement here is always whether or not to go public with what they know about these attacks, how they were carried out and who executed them. for intelligence officials, they don't like to go public with this because it gives the other side some indication of what the u.s. can figure ou

i read jim comey's piece in law fair. it's impossible to pay attention to anything today, so on a personal level, i think even this case, just the debate it's created is valuable for our society. but, so one thing, you know, i'm thinking at this from more of an international security perspective, and i'm trying to sort of, you know, for the sake of public debate and, you know, norms and laws to try to conceptualize and think about the difference between, you know, because in the computer science sense, data flowing through networks is all the same, it's all data packets, but there's data that can become information for coordinating activity and, basically, you know, for human consumption. but then there's data that has kinetic effects that destroys critical infrastructure, that -- and it's concern so what role does encryption play in protecting those systems? to me, that's, you know, one of the biggest concerns, our electric grid. all these things, it's not the information we care about because it's more machine-to- machi

. >> which had been given by fbi director jim comey.ast october he was asked, it's not on tape, it's reporters making notes from what he said, the tape wasn't allowed. when do you expect this to be tied up? well, let me tell you that i give a daily report on the fbi's investigation, unheard of for the fbi director to get a daily report on an individual investigation because there are so many investigations going on and so much to manage. let me tell you, i expect the fbi to be expected by the middle of january, this is last october. we're now 45 days beyond the middle of january. what did we learn yesterday? another 200 e-mails that came out that were confidential or secret, there now were, in the four years that mrs. clinton was secretary of state, during the course of which she diverted all of her professional e-mail through her husband's server, over 2000 e-mails that were confidential, secret or top secret and she will say, i didn't know it. that is simply defies belief that the nation's chief diplomate could receive, read, and send

is she actually going to be interviewed by jim comey himself?nprecedented, but it would not surprise me because he's a hands-on detailed person who stole all of us who follow these things that he is getting daily briefings in the fbi agent managing the investigation exactly where they are and what they accomplished. stuart: if and when she goes into this meeting, does she have a lawyer with her? she's got a voyeur with her. could it mean over and say you don't have to answer the question, hillary. could she refuse to answer some questions that answer others? >> yes. she can do that. she can stop answering and leave whenever she wants. this is not under oath. the penalty for lying in this environment and the penalty for misleading in this environment is the same as if she had been under oath. this is the classic martha stuart environment where she told one lie to one fbi agent in one conversation, and she ended up spending six months in prison. they are more interested in her awareness of the espionage from the failure to secure national security

. >> yeah i think it was yesterday or day before, jim comey was testifying in congress and what he said were going to carry on the investigation, and use a number of -- one of the adverbs was promptly, that is he is not man chooses his words lightly. and i think that -- they will we will know what is going to happen here, sooner rather than later. >> you would think the democrats want it to be prompt because they need to understand if she is a viable candidate. >> of course,. but, obviously, to extent democrats support hillary clinton o don't want it prompt, if the way it is going to come out is her on the wrong end. >>, of course. >> if comey were to recommend indictment have to keep quiet? do you think there are those protecting hillary clinton right now. >> i am sure there are people who are inclined to view things her way both within the justice department and outside. but, if he recommends and bureau recommends an indictment, it is impossible to keep a laid on that. >> what could pagliano tell us was apparently paid 5,000 dollars early 2009 by hillary clinton, to divert her e-mail

. >> jim comey said he wants to wrap this up promptly what do you think that means. >> i think that meansean, you know, we have people from the justice department that from time to time give us tidbits of information it all seems to be coming to a head very soon. the evidence of her failure, to safeguarding state secrets well documented, publicly known quite frankly overwhelming. it is almost inabout about conceivably she won't be charging with something how do they charge her because of who she is, she is not going to wake up find out she has be indicted she and lawyers will be called in here is evidence we have do you want to talk to us no lawyer worth her or his salt would let client talk to fbi without knowing what fbi knows the fbi is not going to share all with clients her option will basically be okay. i give up my political career is over but i am going to stay out of jail, let's see what we can negotiating on this, or she could say, go take a hike, indict me jury will never find me guilty will end political career as well. >> what bearing does what happened tod david petraeus hav

so there are understandably if your job is law enforcement, if you're jim comey or anyone else you wantken the security of these devices. and that's -- it's not a privacy versus security so much as it is law enforcement's needs to try to solve a crime versus the security of people who are trying to prevent bad things from happening. >> mark halperin. >> tim cook is a patriots and businessman and has a responsibility to his share holers. is he doing this because his shareholders want it? is he doing it to protect his business? is he doing it because he believes in a higher principle? >> does it have to be one of those? >> it can be both. >> there's no question apple has been very successful, that secrecy is apple's product. it's very much part of what they're identified with and they have enormous stakes outside of the u.s., too. 25% of apple's iphones are sold in china. so there's no question that there are huge commercial implications to this. but every other major tech company pretty much from facebook and twitter and microsoft all have weighed in on apple's side so it's not -- and th

. >> michael, jim comey, fbi director, hillary clinton e-mails. hourly basis is the fbi director in the e-mail investigation? >> everyday. and if you were running the fbi you wouldn't let anyone else handle that because it will come down in the end -- if the fbi interviews hillary clinton i suspect comey will be the one conducting the interview. it's not the kind of thing you farm out. it's too important, too critical not only to the country now the agency, the bureau. so he's doing it everyday, not as many agents on it as has been reported but plenty. and i think they're moving fast. i think we'll hear from them soon. >> you think the fbi director would personally interview secretary clinton? >> i do. >> wow. >> i do. and don't forget, this is maybe the only person on the planet who's already investigated hillary and bill clinton before. he was on the whitewater committee 25 years ago looking at that land deal that was an investigation primarily of her and then he handled the mark rich pardon investigation 16 years ago. so this is someone who's n

jim, do you want to add to that? director comey: i'd echo some of what the attorney general said earlier. if there is an attack overseas we focus two things. first, are there any connections into the united states to the people who committed the attack? second, is there any risk of subjects in the united states see that as a copy cat opportunity? so we're focused on both of those things. so far we don't see an indication of that here. in fact, i am an optimist but i think we will have reverse effect. when you see men and women and children being slaughtered around the world, i hope you see they are not involved in some heroic, romantic battle on the side of good but see a bunch of savages occupying a place that's hell on earth right now. i think we see that reflected in the decrease of number of cases we're seeing of people trying to travel over to the so-called islamic state from the united states. that's a positive trend. we hope very much that it reflects an understanding of people looking for a center in their life, this is not