vincent, joan jett, and lana del rey. see what i did there? i know you don't like her. [laughter]. >> it was -- >> you're taking me out of context. >> i am, i am, i am, sorry. and lorde. and that must have been -- for you that must have been kind of a fun and amazing thing to do. >> yeah, it was. i mean, it was kind of thrilling and scary. yeah, i don't feel like i ever have to go to one of those ever again. [laughter]. >> on that subject, let's -- >> five hours. >> let's speak about that for a second. what on earth is wrong with the world that sonic youth is not in the rock 'n' roll hall of fame? this feels like the snub of snubs. >> well, i don't know. i just don't think we were -- sold enough records. i mean, i don't think we're that popular. >> really? so nsync will be in the hall of fame here at some point? is this all about that? really? >> i think so. >> well down with that. i, for one, think it's great. you don't care, particularly? >> i mean, i -- you know, it's flattering to be nominated. >> right. [laughter]. >> right. >> but, you know, there's a lot of old g