jessica, we were talking about this a minute ago with larry sato . what happened to the polling in michigan? >> it was certainly all over the place and i think we've seen that this entire presidential campaign. part of it i think goes to the point that in michigan they really haven't had a serious campaign going on there for the primary in years. bernie sanders was the first time any presidential campaign he had been there since going back to gerald ford who really, there was a lot of opaqueness in terms of what was going to happen and what the turnout was going to be which was enormous. most 1 million people in the democratic primary alone which is amazing. jon: it's an open primary their mercedes. did donald trump perhaps exhibit strength among traditional democratic voters? >> absolutely. i think donald trump's message, his economic populist message, the idea of being able to bring back jobs to the area. michigan has been hit so hard from the economic recession. you look at the wages, they are stagnant. look at the average household income, it is

larry sato, that's who you're talking about. he and his qualities from the center of politics in a piece entitled the electoral college, the only thing that matters. writing this, quote. more than seven long months remain until the election and all kind of unexpected twists and turns can occur. sure we don't know the shape of the economy or terrorism or the precise job approval rating of president obama in the autumn or the gas and scandals that may yet unfold on our way to the ballot box but gosh darn it, there's finally a pause in the nonstop primary calendar and were going to take advantage of that. jon: larry sato, the director of the center for politics at the university of virginia joins us now live. it's pretty bold to be looking at electoral college votes this early larry. but you've taken a look at it first of all, you've got to pick your nominee. you say it's all but certainly hillary clinton on the democratic side. howabout trump? >> trump is the front-runner . he is the likely nominee but he is certainly not the proh

larry sato, that's who you're talking about.ies from the center of politics in a piece entitled the electoral college, the only thing that matters. writing this, quote. more than seven long months remain until the election and all kind of unexpected twists an