. >> this is madonda, afall, she's been playing the same game for decades, is this really a meltdown or for -- as she told us barely a year ago, she just doesn't care what people think. >> there's no rules and people should ju leave me alone and let me do what i want to do for a change. >>> here's the latest on another headline that we are in front of. >> madonna's other ex, under fire today. >> you look hurt still. sean pen. her first sit down she and penn made headlines. sean act companied her on a trip to meet escaped drug lord el chapo. >> you wanted to have a conversation about the policy on the war on drugs? >> that's right. >> and sean told charlie rose that he was th to write a question for rollingstone. >> use that as an anchor into this article. >> but she said she felt misle initially thinking that sean came wi her because of a film he wanted make about el chapo. >> are you angry at him? >> i am. i don't think he never wanted to make movie. >> charlie told us sean knew kate wassa pivotal player in their meeting. today this previously unknown actress finally answered how sh

. >> this is madonda, after all, she's been playing the same game for decades, is this really a meltdown or manipulation? she definitely knows outrageous behavior keeps you talked about and relevant. and as she cold us a year ago, she just doesn't care what people think. >> there's no rules and people should just leave me alone and let me do what i want to do for >> but now we on to madonna's other under today. >> kate decastille blasting penn to diane sawyer. back in october, sean accompanied kate on a secret trip to meet escaped mexican drug lord el chapo who was later captured. >> you wanted to have a conversation about the policy on the war on drugs? >> that's right. >> and sean told charlie rose that he was there to write a question for rolling stone. >> ask a question and then use that as an anchor into this article. >> but she said she felt misled, initially thinking that sean came with her because of a film he wanted to make about el chapo. >> are you angry at him? >> i am. i hink she was never interested in the movie. >> it's not without controversy, and he understands that. >>