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>> yeah. >> matt simons. there's a place i go to where no one knows me it's not lonely it's a necessary thing it's a place i made up find out what i'm made of the nights i've stayed up counting stars and fighting sleep let it wash over me i'm ready to lose my feet take me off to the place where one reveals life's mystery steady on down the line take it all in and wake up that small part of me day to day i'm blind to see and find how far to go everybody got their reason everybody got their way we're just catching and releasing what builds up throughout the day it gets into your body it flows right through your blood we can tell each other secrets and remember how to love there's a place i'm going no one knows me let it out and let it in it can be terrifying to be slowly dying also clarifying we end where we begin so let it wash over me i'm ready to lose my feet you take me off to the place where one reveals life's mystery steady on down the line lose every sense of time take it all in and wake up that small pa

singer/songwriter matt simons will sing for us later.olo, it was hosting the rose parade. >> you're right. that was our last one. >> memorable because you didn't remember. >> we did. >> that's right. >> we sat here together before, too. >> it's been a while. >> when we did, people start -- there were rumors flying. >> we had people -- after the rose parade, they were wondering were we married to each other. >> that's how we talked, like a married couple. >> i don't know if that's good or bad. i think it's good. >> how about words of wisdom? >> okay. >> this is on wednesdays. close your eyes. in the end, you always go back to the people that were there -- >> i thought we were closing our eyes. >> i have to read it. in the end, you always go back to the people that were there in the beginning. wait, "dawson's creek," that's what the quote was from? >> wow, if we're doing quotes like that, how about, i am what i ah-ha. >> on wednesdays, al, we have a wine bot. >> really? >> you're drinking water. >> i'm not a wine drinker. >> what do you li

highbrow criticism and critiquing that you just couldn't do when it was "simon and simon" and "matlock." emily: you and matt blanc have ityught showtime to near par with hbo. what distinguishes showtime from hbo or netflix? david: we are all doing very similar things. for better or for worse, the premium, high end area is where everybody wants to go. so what distinguishes a showtime show? i wanted to be culturally relevant. "homeland" has things to say about america's place in the 21st century world. even "masters of sex," a period show, has a lot to say about gender and conjugated relationships with sexuality. so, cultural relevance, entertainment value, characters with complicated, adult psychology. emily: some would say that you have all of these hit shows but you haven't had your major, major hit. what is going to be your "game of thrones?" david: i don't think you ever plan for the big hit. we didn't know what "homeland" was going to be. we are delivering consistent shows that people want to watch across the year probably better than anyone right now. a "gameuld love to have of thrones." emily: does it

. >> sam simon -- even if you don't recognize the name, you surely know his work as co-developer, with matt groening, of that iconic and long-running tv show, "the simpsons." sam was born in 1955 and grew up in beverly hills, just down the street from groucho marx. after graduating from stanford university, sam catapults his way up in the tv business, becoming a showrunner in 1978 for the hit series "taxi," at the age of 23. >> sam was the youngest showrunner in the history of television, when he was a showrunner on "taxi." >> mark thompson is an l.a. radio host and a long-time friend of simon's. >> to describe him as highly intelligent would be to understate it in the extreme. >> sam works on "barney miller" and "cheers," before teaming up with matt groening on "the simpsons," which premieres on the fox network in 1989. >> matt groening created these characters and this family, but the universe that the simpsons exist in -- the town, the nuclear power plant, mr. burns, all of these different characters... sam simon was the driving force behind that. >> but in 1993, after four trailblazing

the highbrow criticism and critiquing that you could not do when it was simon and simon and matlock. emily: you and mattave done hbo. what distinguishes showtime from hbo? what distinguishes showtime from netflix? what is the show's brand? >> we are doing similar things. for better or for worse, the sort of high-end areas were everyone wants to go. what distinguishes a showtime show, i want it to be culturally relevant, "homeland" has things to say about america's place in the 21st century world. even "masters of sex," a period show, has a lot to say about gender and our complicated relationship with sexuality. cultural relevance, entertainment value, characters with some complicated adult psychology. emily: some would say you've got all of these hit shows and you have not had your major hit. what's going to be your "game of thrones?" >> i don't think you can plan for what the big hit is. i don't know what "homeland" is going to be. we are delivering consistent shows that people want to watch across the year better than anyone now. i would love to have a "game of thrones." emily: is that your white whal

matt's perfect timing got a deal with shy simon and schuster.hristie was at the height of his popularity at the top of all polls. >> he said give me a hug. i said all right even hug him. >> timing of the book's release this past january not so perfect for the public cher. >> i thank you all very much. >> maybe since it was just before christie got knocked out of the race right after the new hampshire primary. >> you write a book about this guy. you know if he becomes president your book is a best seller. so you secretly -- even though you're not supposed to you had to be rooting for the guy. >> i was rooterring for him to be a player and he turn out despite all the media attention he really wasn't. he didn't really do that much of a fight in the end. he got just destroyed at the iowa caucus, and sixth place in new hampshire after spending more time there than any other candidate and more money per voter than all but one other candidate. i was expecting and was on the cal pain trail for many months and people would be buying the book because of t