. >> richard sizzik, you had a front-row seat for the intertwining party of the evangelical muslim. one very striking piece of poll data that has come out recently shows american evangelicals in a sizeable majority don't think muslims share american values. the values of us of islam are inconsistent with american values. >> precisely, but it's born out of the values that every evangelical has. this is the judeo-christian kurt. it was founded on the christian faith by puritans and others, and they look at this and say, this is our heritage. and are muslims part of that heritage? they don't see it that way, and they are inclined to say, this is our country and who are these newcomers? >> that is an interesting -- would it be part of the more generalized anxiety around high levels of immigration in decades? a slight variation on that, rather than directed specifically at islam? >> i think that it's a factor that is historical. it's a trend line that goes way back to the early part of the country. so i'm not so sure that it's directed intentionally at muslims, though there are leaders w