. >> seamus mccaffery kept his pension -- seamus mccaffery, and seamus mccaffery actually sent many,y more pornographic e-mails than eakin did. eakin received the majority. i wanted to say something to follow up with jan. and i've pushed for merit selection, as well. politics should not be a part of the system when we have judges/justices, but how interesting. politics are the reason that those two justices, mccaffery and eakin, are gone -- politics from the end of kathleen kane. it's not because, yeah, they received pornographic e-mails. it's an issue of judgment. but that alone would never have been enough to unseat a sitting justice of the supreme court of pennsylvania. it was kathleen kane who took those two men down with her as she is leaving. she made her mark, you know? i mean, say what you will about her, kathleen kane marked, branded the supreme court of pennsylvania. >> but i think that they marked themselves initially by doing these e-mails, i'm sorry -- this sort of like chummy kind of club of racists, sexists -- >> misogynists. >> all kinds of things. i take it seriously