us to tell us what the turkish government would make out of this possible announcement where the kurds are saying that the group is preparing to declare a federal system in the areas it controls near the northern border with turkey. >> reporter: well i should say to stort with although it seems to have come as ray surprise, this idea of a future syria under a federal settlement had actually been mooted or floated as an idea before the talks began by the russian foreign ministry. lo and behold here we are three days into the talks and the kurds apparently are declaring that this is going to happen. in that sense the ground it seems potentially have been laid for this by the russian foreign minister before the talks started. in that sense even though the government in ankara to your question hasn't actually given an fish reaction yet, it may be that they thought that this was possible, even though the kurds haven't been invited to geneva, but it is possible that it would happen. i think in general terms the governor in ankara will be worried about this, not least because they regard the y.p.g., the armed group operating the kurdish armed group that has been operating inside northern syria as linked to and as an extension of the p.k.k. which is a prescribed terrorist organization operating inside turkey. so at the very least i think the turkish government will see this as a major security concern because they accuse the y.p.g. of moving weapons across the border. that is the worst and given there is a turkish enclave in northern syria and iraq as well, they will in their worst case scenario will worry whether kurds in southern turkey might even conceivably, even though there a s a range of opinions, some might start to demand the same sort of autonomy for their rights in southern turkey as well. the thing that is the absolute worse case scenario for them is the idea as something that might look like a future kurdistan with travels the border. these are the things that worry them almost more than anything else. >> reporter: even though you say this idea has been floated around recently lip, i still wonder what syrians themselves and specifically those in aleppo would make of a potential announcement: they will find the entire idea egregiously unfair. you have to remember from the start that the syrians who began the revolution, their primary demand was for a warm syria for all syrians, whether they're kurds or anything else at all. they will be very, very much against the idea of splitting syria up into blocks under a federal system even if it isn't broken up entirely and they will be saying why is it that the occur are being allowed this new autonomy and we're not. just going back to the idea floated by the russians, and if it is true as well as the kurdish area there was an idea of a sunni block with raqqa in it but the whole of the western strip with aleppo and homs all the cities going up to the tur wish border being run by the government in damascus. that will be an absolute non-starting >>> the timing you of all of these peace talks go on in geneva and the wyd expludd from the talks. -- excluded from the talks. >> reporter: yes. exactly. it's the russians who wanted the kurds to be included and it's not difficult,itive say, even though you can't actually prove it at the moment, to see the russian hand behind all this. why would the russians want the kurds to have this sense of autonomy. obviously, there's this loose arrangement in northern syria between the kurds it is said and the regime in dpam as can you say and, therefore-- damascus and, therefore, by extension with moscow. it is easily, potentially, even though you can't prove it, to suggest that the russians might want the kurds to have this power and autonomy as revenge against the turkish government and certainly relations between ankara and moscow have got so bad, this can only make things worse still >>> thank you very much for joining us from gaziantep with that update. we're going to speak to a phd researcher at the free university of brussels and that is where he is joining us. firstly, give us your take on the peace talks taking place now in geneva and what you expected to come out of them and specifically with in announcement that we hear from a senior spokesman for syria's kurds saying that the group are preparing to declare a federal system in the area that is controlled. what do you make of the timing of that? >> let me put this in perspective. in late 1980s and early 90s, the p.k.k. saw an opportunity to establish a base in syria, to have a bigger leverage in its conflict with turkey. all of the p.k.k. was effectively kicked out from syria in late 1990s, break out of the syrian civil war. we see that the p.k.k. or the kurds in syria ambitions about syria start to evolve in a different direction. so if syrian kurds wish to declare and keep a federal system, we can expect that syrian kurds will not diverse subst